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jesus one of the most popular person ever lived
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To me it shows that not all people are utterly evil.
I think it is an attempt at an ad-populum argument as it appears to be intended to impress, however in my view the reason for that popularity is due among other things to Christianity being a smorgasbord religion full of contradictions that allow people of different mindsets to cherry pick which Jesus they want to follow, which makes it far less impressive in my opinion.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, maybe based on a certain of assumptions. But I don't share them, so to me Jesus is irrelevent in the religious sense.
Not much. People can be popular for the wrong reasons (just go to Google and type in "most popular people ever").
It's a person's actions, not their popularity, that I find important.
paarsurrey
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(Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah is one of the most popular persons ever lived
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Assuming he is more than a character in a book. The supernatural bits are certainly not true.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
He never lived. Jesus is a mythological character.
McBell
Unbound
Seems the Sentinelese would disagree...
paarsurrey
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Starlight said:
jesus is one of the most popular person ever lived
what do you think about that?
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jesus is one of the most popular person ever lived
what do you think about that?
Does one mean the Pauline's fake claims about Yeshua- as God or Son of God or God in the flesh, please, right?
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Sand Dancer
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I can see that. He had some nice attributes to follow after.
I wouldn't limit skepticism to just what paul wrote. None of it is plausble if interpreted literally. A symbolic interpretation could work, but if a person is capable of such abstract thought they probably don't need to rely on religious texts.
Sir Joseph
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Actually, if you look at the number of professing believers within all faiths that include Jesus as a significant person, including those who have a false perception of him, labeling him as "one of the most" is a gross understatement.
Just as the Holy Bible is by far the most published and read book throughout human history, Jesus is by far the most popular and influential man in human history. One need only to look at and consider religion population numbers to realize this reality.
Those who deny his existence are few anymore, since there's simply too much evidence, both Biblical and secular, to support such a view - more so in fact than any other individual in antiquity.
Most Biblical scholars today concede that the historical evidence for Jesus' life, teachings, and death by crucifixion is a well established fact. On the other hand, most skeptics are those who haven't studied the matter and thus are ignorant of the abundant manuscripts and writings we have today. The legitimate debate among scholars is not whether Jesus lived or died, but whether he actually claimed to be the son of God, performed miracles, and rose from the dead.
People who want to reject Jesus as Lord and Savior of the world are certainly free to do so, but those who deny his existence or dismiss his importance in world history are just demonstrating an unwarranted ignorance in the matter.
I doubt the claim
This ^^
So say if person A likes dogs and hates cats, then person B comes to person C and tells the lie that person A likes cats and hates dogs because person C also does.
Although person C having been misled would genuinely believe that person A is great, can we say that they have been influenced by person A to believe that? If not (and I believe the correct answer is no) then shouldn't we really account person B as being the influencer of person C?
Is it not person B who is more popular with person C than person A who has a reality completely at odds with the perception of person C?
If you are still following me why would we count those who have misperceptions of Jesus as viewing Jesus himself as popular? Personally I wouldn't. I would consider Paul more popular than Jesus, followed by the popularity of Muhammad (or his influential followers in turn) and Baha'u'llah.
paarsurrey
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" Bible is by far the most ........ read book throughout human history "
Pauline NT Bible is neither by (Jesus)Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah ( who was neither a Zealot, nor he belonged to the Zionism people nor to the Judaism people), nor it is the most read book, kindly correct one misconceptions, please, right?
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Spice
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I am reading a book written by a Jewish professor of Christian theology and learning a great deal from her perspective concerning the NT. It strengthens my own rendering of Paul's preaching and enlightens me on some of my questions concerning Luke's. The book is from a historical POV, and she is quite clear she does not expect anyone's faith to change, just be enhanced by knowledge of the culture and the times. A good read:
The Misunderstood Jew, by Amy-Jill Levine.