What is interesting, is that what I see in this is what is talked about as the Three Faces of God (or Spirit); God in 1st person perspective; 2nd person, and 3rd person perspectives. Please read this here. I think you will find great insight in this:
+kenwilber.com - blog
That is a good way to explain it. I will give that a read after this.
God in creation is 3rd person, the immanent God, in nature, in the world, etc. God in 2nd person is traditional theism, the Holy Thou; God is wholly transcendant to creation. God in 1st person is the experience of God within. For me personally, in envisioning God in 2nd person perspective, it incorporates 3rd person, or pantheist immanence, in what is called
panentheism. Pantenthiesm says God both wholly transcendent and wholly immanent. The 1st person perspective where I experience God within. The nondual is able to encompass all of this. "Before Abraham was, I AM." I identify mostly with nonduality.
A good physical expression of How the Divine IS, I like it.
This is often how I feel that God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit manifest.
That being the same order in which you presented the 3-faces.
This is how I make sense of the Trinity, otherwise.....
I tend to be more Oneness-based in my approach, hence the non-dual convo I suppose.
Pan/entheism isn't new business to me though, but it's good to include the link,
for others who this stuff might be new to.
Only mentioning so you might know better the page I am on, not to contend.
:namaste
For me, traditional theism, though it has its place in recognizing the smallness of the ego in the face of the Infinite, it leaves God outside yourself. It doesn't bring God within if taught dogmatically. It portrays Jesus as the only one who has that relationship, and tells people that you will always be a sinner, separated from God, and that there is some "mystery" in heaven that will redeem you after death. It keeps it from realization here and now. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life", becomes a dogmatic formula, not a realization of who we are in God.
Perhaps the Ego IS small... A Lower-self.... it's the 'Us' that isn't US at all, ya know?
It is the Sinful-Self, which is bound up in the senses and neglectful of our Divine-Self's potential to be Known.
If we set aside that 'Us' we find that True-US, which is the Divine Spark.
We come in contact with the High-Self....
This is where the paradox of submission and Self-Empowerment live.
We Flee from the distractions, submitting, which is empowering to our relationship to High-Self.
Does it matter if it's in or out... IS there an in or out... Or is it just IS?
That this growth and knowledge of High-Self takes place is what, I think, is the most important.
Revel in the Mystery of Inside and Outside.
Perhaps that is the 'saving Mystery' to dwell in instead?
Knowing 'how or why' might be one of those confounding questions to not be asked, per the Buddha's prescription.
All that said.... 'taught dogmatically' and 'seen as dogmatically' might be the hitch....
There seems to be a 'perceived right' that people fall prey to.
I think it's lack of personal exploration on the subject that is the clincher.
Finding what you and I are talking about it only a few clicks or library visit away.
Perhaps the dogma that is taught is that of not wondering,
which doesn't foster the wandering of the Pilgrims on their way to Zion.
