Jesus Wife Evidence

[fallingblood]

you wouldnt be the first person who failed at trying to rationalize the trinity. keeping one god concept and maintaining monotheism is contradictory.


its why I wont even try



but no matter how you slice it, jesus is viewed as one with god, and god had a wife.

Like I said, I will make a thread concerning the Trinity probably tonight. But to be brief, Jesus may be considered God, but he is not considered to be the Father. That is, Jesus is not considered to be the God of Judaism, as in the God spoken of in the OT. This your argument fails.

 

[outhouse]

did you seriously just criticize my sentence construction? You really want to go there?

lol

 

[Storm]

lol

Yeah, hypocrisy is just hilarious.

 

[outhouse]

Jesus is not considered to be the God of Judaism

you might have a problem with all of christianity and the Nicene creed on that one champ

 

[fallingblood]

you might have a problem with all of christianity and the Nicene creed and that one champ

Not really. The Nicene Creed is not really the end all of the Trinity anyway. In fact the doctrine wasn't fully worked out until later. The Nicene Creed was more to distinguish Jesus and God. Or to work out the divinity of Jesus. And even then, the Nicene Creed has undergone revisions anyway.

More so, Christians recognize that Jesus is different from God, but yet of the same substance. This will also be my last post on the subject here as I would rather focus this attention in a separate thread instead of derailing this one.

 

[outhouse]

God is god. this is monotheism we are talking about. there is only one god of the abrahamic faith.

we are not dealing with 1/3 of god in any aspect, shape , or form, and the trinity has never defined jesus as 1/3 god no matter what evolution the trinity has gone through.

you will never make clear sense out of the trinity when it is written in circular language.


im exploiting that loophole and admitted it from the beginning. but dont state the loophole doesnt exist. the son is god is my only point, and defined as such.

and with both of you fighting the loophole your each trying to redifine god himself as written. you are forced to leave said loophole alone.

and I warned you both, you wouldnt be the first person/s who failed at trying to rationalize the trinity. keeping one god concept and maintaining monotheism is contradictory.

 

[Storm]

Mairoi is Mairoi. Clotho still doesn't cut the string.

 

[Godobeyer]

Actually, it does nothing to Christianity. The piece is too late for it to be of any major concern here. Yes, it is an interesting find, and can tell us about later Christians, but as for the historical circumstance of Jesus, it does absolutely nothing.

Whether Jesus is married or not really is a moot question anyway, as his marriage status really changes nothing.

i have some question
do you mean this piece of paper is accepted by the Christians ?
and it's ok Jesus ('pbuh) is not single , that's it ?

if it's "YES",

why the New Testemant never mention that Jesus (pbuh) married ?!!!

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

i have some question
do you mean this piece of paper is accepted by the Christians ?
and it's ok Jesus ('pbuh) is not single , that's it ?

if it's "YES",

why the New Testemant never mention that Jesus (pbuh) married ?!!!

It it is ever proved that Jesus was married, Christians would accept it..
This piece of Papyrus only shows that some thought he was.

There are many things that the New Testament does not mention.
It is a library of books containing scripture that was acceptable to the compilers. It never was definitive.
Mention of a possible marriage of Jesus was not acceptable. Though it seems that some Christians at that time thought he was.

Books that did not comply with early dogma, were either destroyed or withered away with lack of being recopied. They did not include writings or ideas they did not agree with.

 

[fallingblood]

i have some question
do you mean this piece of paper is accepted by the Christians ?
and it's ok Jesus ('pbuh) is not single , that's it ?

if it's "YES",

why the New Testemant never mention that Jesus (pbuh) married ?!!!

This piece of paper isn't even known about by most Christians, and probably never will be. And for Christian doctrine, it really means nothing. It is only important for historians of the Early Church who examine how the various strands of Christianity evolved.

And I do think it would be okay for Jesus to be married. But the reason the New Testament doesn't speak about it either way is because it just wasn't seen as important.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

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Sam Kinison - Jesus didn't have a wife - YouTube

 

[Plato]

Historian Says Piece of Papyrus refers to Jesus Wife



Well? What do you think?

It doesn't seem important because.......
1. We don't have enough of it or the rest of it. Jesus didn't have to be talking about his own wife. Maybe he was going to say....Jesus said unto them...My wife I shall always consider as important as myself should the though in every husbands heart...or somethng like that.
2. It was written 100's of years after Jesus's time in Egypt where Jesus and the Apostles never went so it can't be a 1st person account and could be from 'any' work about Jesus even a fiction one.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It doesn't seem important because.......
1. We don't have enough of it or the rest of it. Jesus didn't have to be talking about his own wife. Maybe he was going to say....Jesus said unto them...My wife I shall always consider as important as myself should the though in every husbands heart...or somethng like that.
2. It was written 100's of years after Jesus's time in Egypt where Jesus and the Apostles never went so it can't be a 1st person account and could be from 'any' work about Jesus even a fiction one.

Egypt was a major centre of Christianity for the early Church. The Coptic Church was perhaps the earliest of the established churches.

Even the four gospels and all of Paul writing are not first person accounts of Jesus..

 

[Xchristian]

It doesn't seem important because.......
1. We don't have enough of it or the rest of it. Jesus didn't have to be talking about his own wife. Maybe he was going to say....Jesus said unto them...My wife I shall always consider as important as myself should the though in every husbands heart...or somethng like that. .

I prefer this:

Jesus spake unto them and said: "My wife? there's no way I can have a wife, I am god incarnate, gods don't marry you fools"

That's more like it, and that would also serve in solving the disbutes regarding jesus never claiming to be god and so on, you know?

 

[Xchristian]

2. It was written 100's of years after Jesus's time in Egypt where Jesus and the Apostles never went so it can't be a 1st person account and could be from 'any' work about Jesus even a fiction one.

Matthew said he went, and he is god, you know? he would never forget, he puts poor people in the lake of fire just because they can't understand god being three in one, so rest assured, he did go!

Also, the Egyptian church is where all this trinity stuff came from, Athnasius and such, where were they fabricated? Alexandria of course!