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John Macarthur opens church

dad

dad

Undefeated
SkepticThinker said:
No kidding.

Hence the reason I pointed out that medical procedures can't be done online. :shrug:
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Great, and we could add a lot of other things, such as Christians coming together, praying, hugging, etc. The selection of what is OK or essential is what is at issue here in the topic.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
SkepticThinker said:
What?


Sorry but I find it bizarrely funny when people try to tell me what god(s) think. As if they know.

Something like 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion, so it would seem that this god you speak of isn't as concerned about dead fetuses as you would have us believe. :shrug:
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Many people die every day. That does not mean it is OK for some terrorist to drive a truck through a crowd. As for Scripture, it was confirmed to be from God, so it is no secret what God thinks.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
SkepticThinker said:
If you care about other people on the planet, and if you care about being a decent member of a community, you'd do a simple thing like wear a mask around other people.
It's not the big sacrifice that it's made out to be.

Man oh man, I can only imagine how pathetic our current society would have been during WWII when people had to make actual sacrifices for like 6 years. We would have all gotten tired of it and lost the war. Human beings need to buck up a bit and stop being such entitled babies. You're being asked to wear a mask, not cut your arm off.
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They also thought it was a duty to work in death camps...use nuclear weapons, fire bombs, make concentration camps, and other things in that war time. The thread topic was about meeting in groups for worship, I don't think John forbade masks.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
dad said:
"WHO, like all agencies, also says medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers and the use of medical masks in the community may create a false sense of security, with the neglect of other essential measures, including hand washing and social distancing. It may also lead to touching the face under the mask or under the eyes and isn't cost efficient for the community while taking needed masks from medical professionals."

WHO and CDC have conflicting advice about public wearing masks during COVID-19 pandemic
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Again, those were "medical masks", not masks in general.

Also, the problem at the beginning was there were not enough of these medical masks to go around, therefore it was deemed important to get these masks to first-responders. And now they are beginning to run short again because there's far too many people like you who couldn't care less what happens to them because you and people like you refuse to go by the simple NIH/CDC guidelines.

Thus, with 250,000 already dead in this country, it is delusional for you to actually think you are "pro-life".
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
dad said:
Many people die every day. That does not mean it is OK for some terrorist to drive a truck through a crowd. As for Scripture, it was confirmed to be from God, so it is no secret what God thinks.
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Nope, scripture was never confirmed to be from God. In fact its countless errors tell us that the source is human. But then you believe in an unjust and lying God. I guess that can be a bit confusing.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
dad said:
A democracy never used to mean killing 40 million babies a year.
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All you are doing with the above is setting a smokescreen meant to deflect from other pro-life issues because you do not want to accept them because they don't fit your political agenda. Maybe you could have a serious discussion if you decided to actually be consistently pro-life instead of just picking & choosing what you want to call "pro-life".

I am actually pro-life, and I'm consistently pro-life in other areas as well. However, what I am not is a person who would support having an autocratic theocracy that forces women to do or not do things relating to what is inside her own body. For some who cry out against "Big Government!", they certainly don't seem to mind meddling with the inside of a woman.

Where I am pro-life is that if asked I'd highly recommend that a woman go forth with the pregnancy, bring up the child, or allow someone else to adopt him/her. But what I won't do is to force my opinion on her. Capice?
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
metis said:
Thus, with 250,000 already dead in this country, it is delusional for you to actually think you are "pro-life".
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We probably should collectively push to take that away from them. Many of them do not deserve to be called pro-life. And though there is an abundance to demonstrate why, this want of sloppy and even non-existant covid response, their expectations that people die for the economy, it's a very powerful and damning piece of evidence that shows they don't give a damn about a life. They care about a politicized fetus (a fetus they themselves politicized) and little else.
The AP standards dictates they be referred to as "anti-abortion," and that's how we should all do it because that is what they are. They are not "pro-life." They are pro-death and disease.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
metis said:
Again, those were "medical masks", not masks in general.

Also, the problem at the beginning was there were not enough of these medical masks to go around, therefore it was deemed important to get these masks to first-responders. And now they are beginning to run short again because there's far too many people like you who couldn't care less what happens to them because you and people like you refuse to go by the simple NIH/CDC guidelines.

Thus, with 250,000 already dead in this country, it is delusional for you to actually think you are "pro-life".
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I am all for being careful. Don't try to use disease as some excuse for killing babies.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
Nope, scripture was never confirmed to be from God. In fact its countless errors tell us that the source is human. But then you believe in an unjust and lying God. I guess that can be a bit confusing.
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If John wants to meet as Scripture says, those who disagree can go elsewhere.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
metis said:
All you are doing with the above is setting a smokescreen meant to deflect from other pro-life issues because you do not want to accept them because they don't fit your political agenda. Maybe you could have a serious discussion if you decided to actually be consistently pro-life instead of just picking & choosing what you want to call "pro-life".

I am actually pro-life, and I'm consistently pro-life in other areas as well. However, what I am not is a person who would support having an autocratic theocracy that forces women to do or not do things relating to what is inside her own body. For some who cry out against "Big Government!", they certainly don't seem to mind meddling with the inside of a woman.

Where I am pro-life is that if asked I'd highly recommend that a woman go forth with the pregnancy, bring up the child, or allow someone else to adopt him/her. But what I won't do is to force my opinion on her. Capice?
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Your opinion is noted. I am of the opinion that the babies choice to live overrules a parent's desire to kill it for whatever reasons.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
dad said:
If John wants to meet as Scripture says, those who disagree can go elsewhere.
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Or since John cannot practice social distancing and insists on putting the lives of others at risk perhaps he can go elsewhere. Perhaps he should be locked up until this threat is over.

A book of myths has no right to put others at risk.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
dad said:
Your opinion is noted. I am of the opinion that the babies choice to live overrules a parent's desire to kill it for whatever reasons.
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How do you know that there is there choice? How do you know if they can even make one? And if they choose life they can simply "move out". Since even the Bible has abortions performed by priests in it I don't see where you get your ideas from.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
Or since John cannot practice social distancing and insists on putting the lives of others at risk perhaps he can go elsewhere. Perhaps he should be locked up until this threat is over.

A book of myths has no right to put others at risk.
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Great your opinion is noted.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
How do you know that there is there choice? How do you know if they can even make one? And if they choose life they can simply "move out". Since even the Bible has abortions performed by priests in it I don't see where you get your ideas from.
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Life always chooses to live. Try to step on a cockroach and see if it runs.
 
dad

dad

Undefeated
Subduction Zone said:
There is no pretending. It appears that you did not understand it. Can you tell us what you think it means in your own words? A quick synopsis would do.
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You need to make a point. I don't even remember your picture. I do recall some little pic that was not worth straining the eyes for. Make a point that you think your pic made. Instead we have foolish pretensions and no single piece of evidence posted. I think you maybe have this one last chance to post a single piece of evidence here.
 
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