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John Macarthur opens church

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I am all for being careful. Don't try to use disease as some excuse for killing babies.

Your opinion is noted. I am of the opinion that the babies choice to live overrules a parent's desire to kill it for whatever reasons.
I have never proposed or tried to justify "killing babies" myself or by anyone else, so all you have resorted to with the above is blatant dishonesty.

With that, maybe let us know when you actually decide to become pro-life versus just paying lip-service to it, especially if you decide to be in accordance with Jesus' teaching and conclude that all human life is sacred, not just unborn babies? Meanwhile, I have better things to do.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You need to make a point. I don't even remember your picture. I do recall some little pic that was not worth straining the eyes for. Make a point that you think your pic made. Instead we have foolish pretensions and no single piece of evidence posted. I think you maybe have this one last chance to post a single piece of evidence here.
I did. And now you are conflating two quite different threads.

Here is a clue, if you do not understand an argument you can use the back arrows in quotes to see what started the difference.
By the way, the picutre was evidence for evolution. That was a different thread. There was even an explanation of why it was evidence. But that is not what this thread is about. Right now you are confused about how the Bible supports abortion.
 

dad

Undefeated
I have never proposed or tried to justify "killing babies" myself or by anyone else, so all you have resorted to with the above is blatant dishonesty.

With that, maybe let us know when you actually decide to become pro-life versus just paying lip-service to it, especially if you decide to be in accordance with Jesus' teaching and conclude that all human life is sacred, not just unborn babies? Meanwhile, I have better things to do.
Abortion is killing babies, speaking of honesty.
 

dad

Undefeated
I did. And now you are conflating two quite different threads.

Here is a clue, if you do not understand an argument you can use the back arrows in quotes to see what started the difference.
By the way, the picutre was evidence for evolution. That was a different thread. There was even an explanation of why it was evidence. But that is not what this thread is about. Right now you are confused about how the Bible supports abortion.
Here is a clue, post a single piece of evidence here in this thread for evolution that does not requite faith. No one is confused by your fail.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Here is a clue, post a single piece of evidence here in this thread for evolution that does not requite faith. No one is confused by your fail.
You are the one that is terribly confused. This thread is not about evolution. And in the evolution thread I already posted such a piece of evidence. It is not my fault that you did not understand it even when there was an explanation there for you. The failure was yours.

Try again.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Here is a clue, post a single piece of evidence here in this thread for evolution that does not requite faith. No one is confused by your fail.
dinosaur_fossil_1050x700.jpg
 

dad

Undefeated
You are the one that is terribly confused. This thread is not about evolution. And in the evolution thread I already posted such a piece of evidence. It is not my fault that you did not understand it even when there was an explanation there for you. The failure was yours.

Try again.
Well, I do not want to see babies killed. That should do er.
 

dad

Undefeated
The fossil does not evidence the theory of evolution. We do not even know if this was a created kind or a creature that greatly adapted from the original created kind. In either case this has no connection to your shared ancestor with a flatworm or etc! None.Nice try.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The fossil does not evidence the theory of evolution. We do not even know if this was a created kind or a creature that greatly adapted from the original created kind. In either case this has no connection to your shared ancestor with a flatworm or etc! None.Nice try.
I see that you still do not understand the concept of evidence.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No. It means ancient Israel trusted God to judge.
To kill unborn babies, also known as abortion.
The fossil does not evidence the theory of evolution. We do not even know if this was a created kind or a creature that greatly adapted from the original created kind. In either case this has no connection to your shared ancestor with a flatworm or etc! None.Nice try.
Every creature is basically from a series of "greatly adapted" organisms.
There is no "created kind."
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
"WHO, like all agencies, also says medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers and the use of medical masks in the community may create a false sense of security, with the neglect of other essential measures, including hand washing and social distancing. It may also lead to touching the face under the mask or under the eyes and isn't cost efficient for the community while taking needed masks from medical professionals."

WHO and CDC have conflicting advice about public wearing masks during COVID-19 pandemic
They said that several months ago when there was a major shortage of PPE.

Things have changed.

Notice the date on that article. ;)
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Great, and we could add a lot of other things, such as Christians coming together, praying, hugging, etc. The selection of what is OK or essential is what is at issue here in the topic.
Those things can be done at home, online or outside with social distancing in place. As already discussed.
It's nothing like a medical procedure that requires a person to be physically.

One would think the differences would be obvious. :shrug:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Many people die every day. That does not mean it is OK for some terrorist to drive a truck through a crowd. As for Scripture, it was confirmed to be from God, so it is no secret what God thinks.
You've completely avoided the point.


Scripture has never been confirmed to be from God. Not by anyone. Not ever.
Also, reading the Bible doesn't help you understand what some god is thinking. You'd need some sort of mind-reading abilities for that. And which god?
What is it that your God said about abortions, anyway?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
They also thought it was a duty to work in death camps...use nuclear weapons, fire bombs, make concentration camps, and other things in that war time. The thread topic was about meeting in groups for worship, I don't think John forbade masks.
Oops, you completely avoided the point again.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I am all for being careful. Don't try to use disease as some excuse for killing babies.
Literally nobody has done that.


You're the one dragging abortions into this while ignoring 250,000 dead Americans. Americans who were already born, who already were living their lives, who already had social and familial connections. who had people who loved them and they loved in return, who had children and grandchildren, etc.

But you're concerned about fetuses so you claim you're pro-life. Not if you ignore the massive death that is currently taking place AND actively pushing for people not to take precautionary measures to slow the spread of an infectious and deadly disease, you're not.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The fossil does not evidence the theory of evolution. We do not even know if this was a created kind or a creature that greatly adapted from the original created kind. In either case this has no connection to your shared ancestor with a flatworm or etc! None.Nice try.
You'd have to first demonstrate that there are created kinds in the first place, and what they actually are.

So I guess you'd better get on that.
In a different thread.
 
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