Jordan Peters on "One night stand" people (60s)

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I wouldn't make such a baseless aspersion out of concern that someone might ask me to substantiate it.

That's why you wouldn't make it? If you say so.

 

[Brickjectivity]

...People need to let go of the fact that sex is bad, wrong, and sinful.

I agree about that. There has been a lot of superstition about sex and a lot of unnecessary shame and guilt put onto people over it. Currently in my country society is having to completely reevaluate our thinking on sex. Its not easy though. Keeping a level head is hard enough for one person, and people thrive on tradition. We rely so much on what we are familiar with, and reimagining family and reimagining how to keep society civil while changing all the rules about relationships, it is scary. At the same time there are numerous turbulent changes happening. We are mostly getting poorer, and most of us cannot keep up with technological changes. Its like we're being dragged along into some adventure that we haven't chosen; and not everybody survives those.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I wouldn't make such a baseless aspersion out of concern that someone might ask me to substantiate it.

It's not baseless. Peterson gloated and bragged and broadcast to the world he had every intention of being a jerk towards trans students.
Personally I'm glad his prediction was wrong amd he wasn't fired over it so we can take a bright, neon "*******" sign and attach it to him.

 

[Brickjectivity]

It's not baseless. Peterson gloated and bragged and broadcast to the world he had every intention of being a jerk towards trans students.
Personally I'm glad his prediction was wrong amd he wasn't fired over it so we can take a bright, neon "*******" sign and attach it to him.

I heard him say in a video that he would be nice to trans students.

 

[Firenze]

Thought this was applicable here.

https://ccp.net.au/the-problem-with-pop-psychology/#:~:text=Terms%20like%20“narcissist%2C”%20“,concepts%20with%20caution%20and%20nuance.

 

[exchemist]

Where were you when I needed you? Just kidding. Well, mostly kidding. Actually just a little bit kidding. (Oh, standard answer to that question ... "avoiding you").

Something that stuck in my mind ... it was on a TV discussion back when Mary Whitehouse (remember her?) was trying to "clean up" TV content in the UK. Someone said "It's just people with low libidos trying to control people with high libidos".

Which more often than not is the old trying to control the young.

Having now been both, I can understand how that happens. As your libido falls off you begin to see the snags of sexual encounter more prominently, I think. And there are snags, apart from the obvious one of unwanted pregnancy. For people of my generation at least, sex is a bit special and is highly likely to lead to one or other party falling in love, or becoming infatuated - if it goes well. If that is not reciprocated, you've then got an issue and some unhappiness. (If it doesn't go well it's just hideously embarrassing.) I say for my generation as it seems my son and his peers view it a bit differently and don't seem to get so emotionally engaged by the act of sex. So maybe the old are just out of date.

 

[Alien826]

Which more often than not is the old trying to control the young.

It certainly manifests that way. There is also the fact that customs become ossified over time and passed down from generation to generation until they become "obvious" truth or "God given". Then there comes an inflection point, when enough people say "why is it wrong" and there is no good answer. And that's when the "old" folks get really scared that the sky is going to fall and try to turn back the tide. Then when the sky doesn't fall everyone gets used to the new paradigm and defends it. To be fair, there was sometimes a good reason buried back in history for whatever it is, but that reason's no longer applying does not in itself make attitude change occur.

Having now been both, I can understand how that happens. As your libido falls off you begin to see the snags of sexual encounter more prominently, I think. And there are snags, apart from the obvious one of unwanted pregnancy. For people of my generation at least, sex is a bit special and is highly likely to lead to one or other party falling in love, or becoming infatuated - if it goes well. If that is not reciprocated, you've then got an issue and some unhappiness. (If it doesn't go well it's just hideously embarrassing.) I say for my generation as it seems my son and his peers view it a bit differently and don't seem to get so emotionally engaged by the act of sex. So maybe the old are just out of date.

I think that's true. I never felt the "old" way about sex, so maybe society has just caught up with me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I heard him say in a video that he would be nice to trans students.

Deliberately misgendering people, especially because you want to try to make a poiny, isn't being nice. He's said some other things that make me think he's not really a nice person to those outside his expectations (like calling people who have one night stands narcissist and Machaivellian).

 

[Stonetree]

A one-night stand....these old legs can't stand for 15 minutes without looking for a chair..

 

[Brickjectivity]

Deliberately misgendering people, especially because you want to try to make a poiny, isn't being nice. He's said some other things that make me think he's not really a nice person to those outside his expectations (like calling people who have one night stands narcissist and Machaivellian).

My favorite critic of Jordan (and many other youtubers) is münecat seen in this video link in code titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere:

Spoiler: münecat video (contains cursing and could have sexual references)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgO25FTwfRI

She does curse a lot, but this is not intended to be offensive. She's a comedian primarily, but she does research for all of her videos. She always provides studies for her criticisms and ways to verify her comments.