Judaism and Islam

[kai]

Mod post
lets stay on topic folks​

 

[sadiq]

I would like to ask . If nothing from an Islamic point of view, can further the distance of Islam, from any other religion whatever the similarities, than the denial of the prophet surely?

I meant relativley.
Oh and also from a Jewish point of view. a Muslim might find another religion closer.

 

[Bismillah]

Closer definitely than Christianity, which is definitely a partial antithesis to Islam.

Both emphasize tawheed and both have/had an established legalistic tradition derived from religion.

There are certain theological differences such as the concept of hell, but from what comes to mind is the notion I hold that Judaism is revealed for the Jews, in both Islam and Judaism, and that Islam was revealed to mankind.

 

[Villager]

Aren't these two religions almost the same exact thing? Judaislam

That depends a great deal on who you ask. It even depends on which part of a claimed scripture one reads. The Qur'an speaks favourably of Jews as 'the People of the Book' though it also says that the Book of the Jews is corrupted, and opposes Jews in other ways. It blames Jews for rejecting Jesus- though, in practice, Muslims are no less opposed to Jesus than Jews are. Muslims call Jesus a prophet, but it is hard to find any of Jesus' sayings that they agree with, other than what is common to religion generally. Arguably the only real distinctive about Islam is its insistence that another religion- Christianity- is untrue. Muslims say that Jesus did not die, which destroys the whole faith; Jews say that Jesus did not exist, or if he did, was of no account. It makes no practical difference.

Of course, historic Muslim antipathy to Judaism is well known. Yet, after the centuries of Islamic imperialism had reached a limit, most Jews accepted Islam as a non-pagan religion, despite Christianity (or what passed for Christianity) being condemned as pagan. The reason given was that Islam was monotheist. This does not really convince, though, because the New Testament was also monotheist, even if trinitarian Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, then the only claimants to Christianity, were hardly so.

What Judaism and Islam (and indeed the RCC and the EO) have in common is justification by works. The works vary, but the principle is the same. What both are agreed on is that justification is not by faith, despite Abraham's justification by faith before he was circumcised, despite the abundant evidence that Law did not work, despite divine dissatisfaction with Mosaic Law, and despite promise of a better, and different, covenant to replace the old one. The evidence seems to be that, despite substantial agreement on matters soteriological, Islam has attempted to wipe out Judaism because it provides material evidence for Jesus.

 

[asa120]

Both are very, very, very similar, though I think in Islam you could convert without a bar mitzva.

Both do not allow pork.

Both believe in one God.

Both believe that Jesus was not God's son (though Islam thinks Jesus was a prophet and Jewish do not).

Both believe in an afterlife (heaven, but hell varies among Jewish people).

Noah's Ark.

Adam and Eve.

Etc.

Aren't these two religions almost the same exact thing? Judaislam

as e muslim we know that god even point at the places where judaisme was changed and it was not in faith but in the practice and the laws

there is 1 changes in faith in the taura that god correct in the holy quran
wich is the promese of paradise and hell fire in judaisme there are no hell fire because thy have the concept that thy are chosen but the truth there is e hell of fire and there will be even jews who didnt do good


2 changes in the practice an the way of life
in islam jesus and jhon and zakaria didnt just came as profets but thy came as correctioniste also to the jews and to judaisme because it was changed in laws of trading like

it was porhibited for them to give lown with benefits but thy make it ok and thy change the actual text of it in the taura
it was porhibited for them to use religion to make mony but thy change that

and read the gospel you will find e huge and greate debate beteewn jesus and the jews and it s very biautiful parts of the gospel

 

[asa120]

That depends a great deal on who you ask. It even depends on which part of a claimed scripture one reads. The Qur'an speaks favourably of Jews as 'the People of the Book' though it also says that the Book of the Jews is corrupted, and opposes Jews in other ways. It blames Jews for rejecting Jesus- though, in practice, Muslims are no less opposed to Jesus than Jews are. Muslims call Jesus a prophet, but it is hard to find any of Jesus' sayings that they agree with, other than what is common to religion generally. Arguably the only real distinctive about Islam is its insistence that another religion- Christianity- is untrue. Muslims say that Jesus did not die, which destroys the whole faith; Jews say that Jesus did not exist, or if he did, was of no account. It makes no practical difference.

Of course, historic Muslim antipathy to Judaism is well known. Yet, after the centuries of Islamic imperialism had reached a limit, most Jews accepted Islam as a non-pagan religion, despite Christianity (or what passed for Christianity) being condemned as pagan. The reason given was that Islam was monotheist. This does not really convince, though, because the New Testament was also monotheist, even if trinitarian Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, then the only claimants to Christianity, were hardly so.

What Judaism and Islam (and indeed the RCC and the EO) have in common is justification by works. The works vary, but the principle is the same. What both are agreed on is that justification is not by faith, despite Abraham's justification by faith before he was circumcised, despite the abundant evidence that Law did not work, despite divine dissatisfaction with Mosaic Law, and despite promise of a better, and different, covenant to replace the old one. The evidence seems to be that, despite substantial agreement on matters soteriological, Islam has attempted to wipe out Judaism because it provides material evidence for Jesus.

it appaire to you that islam is built the rejection of crisitianity and judaisme but it s not ,,, maybee you watch to much debates
islam is compelte religion of god and it s built in e very logical and perfect way and muslims are muslims not because just thy convert but a lot of them choose it as e religion

11 of all islam dont reject jesus we just believe that his legacy it in islam not throw cristianity

22 how you can ask of muslims ot accept that e profet and e messenger like jesus ,,peace be upon him,,call him self god or sun of god or anny of those thinks
he will never do that he is e profet and e msessenger of god ad he is one of the mithgiest and greatest human bieng ever lived

33 ther are part of the gospel that islam agree on
111like the correction of jesus to the taura and how he debate the jewish rabays that islam agree on that
222 islam agree that jesus is the masaya
333 islam agre that jesus was born of e vergin marry

 

[Flankerl]

Yes yes the evil jews changed everything to their liking.


Probably there were just 3 laws, but given our masochistic blood we added 610 more to be happy. I wonder if anyone has ever written a book about that... \(€_&#8364/

 

[asa120]

Yes yes the evil jews changed everything to their liking.


Probably there were just 3 laws, but given our masochistic blood we added 610 more to be happy. I wonder if anyone has ever written a book about that... \(€_&#8364/

i m soory but it s the truth
and thy are huge laws and thy affect huuge parts of our life thise laws were changed for e long long time before so it wil not account on the jews today god is mersiful and faire

pls read thise :
,,,,O people of the book why you disbelive in the scripture when you are the wintness of there truth have you then no sence,,,,it s part of the quran

the scripture mean the holy coran and you are the witness of there truth how and arabian illiraite man come with all of you history

mohamed say i m e beliver in moses and in the taura and i m e beliver in david and in zabor and i m e beliver in jesus son of mary and i m e beliver in the gospel and i m the laste profet of god and god give me e message that he will protect to all man kind after me
mohamed say to the jews and the cristian to confeme what thy have and to correct some parts so you should be the first to folow him

,,, beofore you say anny think or try to argue any think think aboute the laste day when you will face god and he will ask you why didnt you belive in moahamed ?? and know what s in youre heart and god know every think what you will say back????????????

 

[Flankerl]

Whatever. Be happy with your Islam and have a nice day.

 

[asa120]

hhh i m happy with it
but it s the truth

god speak aboute disbiliver that thy close there heart to islam and faith so god msilead them from the right path

but and beliver open there hearts for love of god and his messenger so god guide them into the right path

soo try to open youre heart

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Abraham Maimonides is worthy of note.

 

[islam means peace]

Both are very, very, very similar, though I think in Islam you could convert without a bar mitzva.

Both do not allow pork.

Both believe in one God.

Both believe that Jesus was not God's son (though Islam thinks Jesus was a prophet and Jewish do not).

Both believe in an afterlife (heaven, but hell varies among Jewish people).

Noah's Ark.

Adam and Eve.

Etc.

Aren't these two religions almost the same exact thing? Judaislam

the teaching of Prophet Moosa Alisalam and Prophet Muhammad salalahualiwasalam and all the other Prophets is same. Its people who had divided themself just for their own earthly benefits, fights and do wrong things.

 

[Caladan]

Both are very, very, very similar, though I think in Islam you could convert without a bar mitzva.

Both do not allow pork.

Both believe in one God.

Both believe that Jesus was not God's son (though Islam thinks Jesus was a prophet and Jewish do not).

Both believe in an afterlife (heaven, but hell varies among Jewish people).

Noah's Ark.

Adam and Eve.

Etc.

Aren't these two religions almost the same exact thing? Judaislam

I think the similarities or differences would run deeper than you criteria, which is superficial at best.

 

[alar]

Both are very, very, very similar, though I think in Islam you could convert without a bar mitzva.

Both do not allow pork.

Both believe in one God.

Both believe that Jesus was not God's son (though Islam thinks Jesus was a prophet and Jewish do not).

Both believe in an afterlife (heaven, but hell varies among Jewish people).

Noah's Ark.

Adam and Eve.

Etc.

Aren't these two religions almost the same exact thing? Judaislam

saying thise is like saying why allah have sent zakaria , jhonand jesus and the with
believe allah have e vezry very good reason to sent them
researsh more pls

 

[eman resu]

Muslims believe in the torah and bible, they also believe in moses and jesus as prophets of god. they believe that as these books were sent down with their respective prophet, the people deviated from the message of these books and prophets. thus the cycle continued until the people finally stuck to gods original message without deviating or altering it (i.e. the quran/islam). its not a coincidence that these religions have many similarities