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Judaism and Supplemental Material
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David Davidovich
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That's fascinating. But I will have to catch up and read all of that.
Ehav4Ever
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There are a couple of views in this, based on how the Hebrew is worded.
According to Rabbi Oury Cherki"
A: There are only two cases where blood is forbidden to a Noahide.
The reason is because eating flesh from a living animal is how the rabbis understood “But flesh with its life, which is its blood, you shall not eat” (Genesis 9:4). There are some who suggest the theory that the custom of eating an amputated limb of an animal was a way that some ancient people considered to keep the rest of the meat fresh in the days before refrigeration.- Blood from a creature which has been removed while the creature is still alive. Examples would be blood that is collected while an animal is slaughtered or blood that is taken from the artery in a horse’s neck, or a common type of sausage which includes blood taken straight from a live pig. Human blood that was collected for a blood donation would also be included in this.
- If the Noahide has explicitly accepted the prohibition of eating blood. This is not recommended, because the laws prohibiting eating blood for Jews are very complicated. On the other hand, a Noahide can accept some or all of the prohibitions related to blood as a nonbinding custom by making an explicit declaration – for example, “I will refrain from eating blood, without taking on a definite obligation, and if I decide to change my mind it will not be a sin.”
Swede01
Member
Adultery is not cheating right? I don't have a relationship though so I don't have to worry about that
Yes, adultery is cheating.
Ehav4Ever
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In terms of Noachides, the concept of how marraiage works is different than it is for Jews. The commonality is that you are forbidden to be with someone else's wife and certain family members. (This the area that in English can be termed as adultry)
In short, whatever agreement you and your significant other establish is what you are meant to hold by. Of course, you have to also follow the laws of the nation and community you live in terms of your relationships. Lastly, your relationship would have to be built on the logic of what makes sense in a one on one relationship.
Cheating, on the other hand, with someone who is not married and who your significant other did not know about, and even if they did, has the ability to lead to violence and inflicting pain on others.
Swede01
Member
Okay can you explain the 7 rules for me as I do not know exactly what they are?
@Swede01, do you have access to a search engine?
When I Google "noahide laws" I get, in order,
- Noahide Covenant: Theology and Jewish Law
- Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia
- The 7 Noahide Laws: Universal Morality
- The Noahide Laws | My Jewish Learning
- Noahide Laws | Judaism | Britannica
- Noahide Laws - New World Encyclopedia
When I was very young, my mother didn't work and my father worked two jobs. We did not have much money as a family. Nevertheless, my father bought us the Encyclopedia Britannica and the Encyclopedia Britannica Junior.
My dad, working two jobs as he did, really didn't have a great deal of time for me, but he always found the time to answer whatever question I might have. But, always, when I asked the question his first response would be:
Did you look it up?
It was good advice. So, in response to your question: did you look it up?
Ehav4Ever
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Here are a few sites that explain them.
7 Questions: The Noachide - aish.com Jewish Society, Non-Jews, Israel, Jews and Non-Jews, Judaism 101
https://etzion.org.il/en/tanakh/torah/sefer-berei****/parashat-noach/noach-seven-noachide-laws-0
https://www.daat.ac.il/daat/vl/noahides/noahides01.pdf
Swede01
Member
It seems so much weaker than normal Judaism. Noahidism is not even close to it.
Ehav4Ever
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It has nothing to do with weak or strong. It is the mitzvoth that Hashem gave to the nations of the world. The only way for someoen who is not Israeli/Jewish to keep the mitzvoth that Hashem gave to Torath Mosheh Israelis/Jews is for non-Jewish person to a) go to a Torath Mosheh court, b) learn Torah from a Torath Mosheh Jewish community, c) move to to and live in a Torath Mosheh Jewish community, and c) completely entrench themselves in the Torath Mosheh Jewish way of living 100%.
Further, you had mentioned that you were interested in becoming a Reform Jew. Most Reform Jews keep the same amount of mitzvoth that Noachides do, so there would not be that much difference.
Ehav4Ever
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Orthodox Judaism/Orthodox Jews are a type of Torath Mosheh Jews.
The following type of Israelis/Jews are Torath Mosheh Jews.
If you look at most Reform Jews do day to day, it is not that different than what Noachides do day to day.
Swede01
Member
Orthodox Judaism/Orthodox Jews are a type of Torath Mosheh Jews.
The following type of Israelis/Jews are Torath Mosheh Jews.
Noahides not have the mezuzah or go to the synagogue and pray even right though? Am I right about that? Do they observe Shabbat as an example? Reform jews do most of these things based on what I heard
If you look at most Reform Jews do day to day, it is not that different than what Noachides do day to day.
Ehav4Ever
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Not all Reform Jews put up mezzuzot. Not all Reform Jews keep Shabbat.
Besides, if I understood what you stated about your sitatuon due to your living with your parents and being in a social network where being Jewish would not being acceptable; thus having to hide things, it sounds like the perfect situation for you.
It sounds to me that keeping the Noachide laws fit perfectly into what you would be doing and not doing if you converted to the Reform Movement. According to the Reform movement if you chose not to put up a mezzuzah or keep Shabbat in a particular way it doesn't matter.
Noachides, are not to keep Shabbat like Torath Mosheh Jews do it. There are Reform Jews who don't keep Shabbat like Torath Mosheh Jews do.
Being a Noachide seems to fit perfectly in what you described your situation to be and what you would and would not be doing.
Swede01
Member
Yes right now but not in the future. I would just keep shabbat as most reform jews do. Why do people think you can pick and choose the commandments?
Ehav4Ever
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Because there are some movements whose whole point was that they could pick and choose the commandments because they didn't beleive that Hashem actually gave the Torah.
Swede01
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Like who?