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Judge halts implementation of Trump's immigration order

Watchmen

Watchmen

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SkepticThinker said:
I'm talking about the people mentioned in Nietzsche's comment:

"Because it's wrong. Federal judges agree that it is wrong. The idea this is done for "security" is laughable. Yes, barring these people from returning to their homes, people who have chosen to come to live in the United States and be productive Americans, is all about keeping us "safe". It's bigotry and hatred, it's that simple."


Besides that, many refugees have indeed made the US their home. But I guess people fleeing death and destruction and ISIS will have to come to Canada now.
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Immigrating to Canada is not as easy as everyone has been pretending the last few days.
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

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Watchmen said:
Actually it's not easy at all.
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Once you have your job offer, it's one form and a fee. You can do it as you're entering Canada. Plenty of people just show up at the border with their job offer letter and proof of professional qualifications (e.g. their university diploma) and fill out the form right there.

Professionals
To work in Canada as a professional, you must:

  • be qualified to work in one of the jobs set out in NAFTA (for example, accountant, computer systems analyst or engineer),
  • have a job offer from a Canadian business in that field and
  • have a work permit.
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Business people

Probably the most difficult part is getting the job offer before you have your TN "visa", but there are plenty of employers who know how the process works.

Edit: of course, if you have a criminal record, there's a good chance your application will be denied. Is that what you meant?
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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9-10ths_Penguin said:
Once you have your job offer, it's one form and a fee. You can do it as you're entering Canada. Plenty of people just show up at the border with their job offer letter and proof of professional qualifications (e.g. their university diploma) and fill out the form right there.


Business people

Probably the most difficult part is getting the job offer before you have your TN "visa", but there are plenty of employers who know how the process works.

Edit: of course, if you have a criminal record, there's a good chance your application will be denied. Is that what you meant?
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All you need is a job offer. Sure. That's easy!
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

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Watchmen said:
All you need is a job offer. Sure. That's easy!
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I never said that finding a job is easy, only that the process to get a TN "visa" is pretty straightforward.

It's a heck of a lot easier than the other employment visa classes that require things like job market studies (to confirm that you wouldn't be taking the job away from qualified Canadians who want it).
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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Premium Member
9-10ths_Penguin said:
I never said that finding a job is easy, only that the process to get a TN "visa" is pretty straightforward.

It's a heck of a lot easier than the other employment visa classes that require things like job market studies (to confirm that you wouldn't be taking the job away from qualified Canadians who want it).
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I'll see if I can find a link, but there was an article from back in a September that outline how difficult it really is.
 
Shad

Shad

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9-10ths_Penguin said:
Once you have your job offer, it's one form and a fee. You can do it as you're entering Canada. Plenty of people just show up at the border with their job offer letter and proof of professional qualifications (e.g. their university diploma) and fill out the form right there.


Business people

Probably the most difficult part is getting the job offer before you have your TN "visa", but there are plenty of employers who know how the process works.

Edit: of course, if you have a criminal record, there's a good chance your application will be denied. Is that what you meant?
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Follow your own link to find the process time for a work permit, it's 14 weeks to 6 months.
 
Underhill

Underhill

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Watchmen said:
All you need is a job offer. Sure. That's easy!
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Not to mention the degree. So if you are willing to earn a college degree in an approved field then manage to find a job in that field, you can get in easily. So after 4 years of work, it's a piece of cake.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Notanumber said:
Are moderate Muslims Uncle Toms?

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As an American looking in he is just plain Biased against Muslims.
Sadiq Khan was elected Mayor of London, by a majority of the population of London Not a majority of Muslims. He won fair and square, He won because he was the best candidate. He easily beat the right wing conservative.
There is no conspiracy going on, though it is true that some Moslem's are having trouble conforming. And a small proportion of them, turn out to be criminals that have to be dealt with by the courts.
This is true of all segments of society, Including Americans who come here.
It is also true that their faith makes it difficult for all of them to conform to our social norms. But to a very large extent a majority of Muslims fit into the work place very well indeed. It is perhaps proving more difficult on a domestic level.
At least some of them have found a use for our redundant churches.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Terrywoodenpic said:
As an American looking in he is just plain Biased against Muslims.
Sadiq Khan was elected Mayor of London, by a majority of the population of London Not a majority of Muslims. He won fair and square, He won because he was the best candidate. He easily beat the right wing conservative.
There is no conspiracy going on, though it is true that some Moslem's are having trouble conforming. And a small proportion of them, turn out to be criminals that have to be dealt with by the courts.
This is true of all segments of society, Including Americans who come here.
It is also true that their faith makes it difficult for all of them to conform to our social norms. But to a very large extent a majority of Muslims fit into the work place very well indeed. It is perhaps proving more difficult on a domestic level.
At least some of them have found a use for our redundant churches.
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From another thread.

Limo said:
Quran is there since 16 centeries. We've lead the world for about thousand years. We've melted several civilizations and produced the best. Europe have taken it forward.

The issue is in head of people who want Muslims to change their belief.
Noway forget it.
We're different, our book hasn't been changed even a litter or a dot. Our faith is the same. It'll as is till the end date
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Unfortunately, Khan is the first of many to come.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Notanumber said:
From another thread.



Unfortunately, Khan is the first of many to come.
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Why unfortunately.?
Muslims are making a good impact in every sphere, and very many ,Like Khan, are highly educated and socially motivated. They are represented at the highest level in every educational, scientific and business field. as well as in all the professions. This is not something new.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Terrywoodenpic said:
Why unfortunately.?
Muslims are making a good impact in every sphere, and very many ,Like Khan, are highly educated and socially motivated. They are represented at the highest level in every educational, scientific and business field. as well as in all the professions. This is not something new.
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Is this what you mean?


How many of us will end up living in a gated communities, if we are lucky or wealthy enough?

If you want to convert to Islam, get yourself a prison sentence.

Islam is a violent gang culture.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Notanumber said:
Is this what you mean?


How many of us will end up living in a gated communities, if we are lucky or wealthy enough?

If you want to convert to Islam, get yourself a prison sentence.

Islam is a violent gang culture.
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Absolutely not ... that is a tirade by a racist right wing apologist.
Lily Allen is a well respected singer.
 
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