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Judgement

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Ceteris paribus, who is more likely to make a poor judgment call?

Someone who believes what is not true and makes judgments based on those beliefs.

Or

Someone who believe what is true and makes judgments based on those beliefs.
The latter answers the first.
Your first is more of a why question?
The second can,&, will have a ting of understanding maybe some forgiving actually take that back anonymously forgiveness is and always was there.
Also poor judgment sucks.
What is not true or true.
has parameters to it.
If someone knows you cant take it away from them.
 
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Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
The problem is in how you worded the question.

I disagree. I think the simplistic wording allows a greater focus on the truth that is being explored. I think some want further stipulations so they can reject the whole thing altogether on some trivial detail
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I disagree. I think the simplistic wording allows a greater focus on the truth that is being explored. I think some want further stipulations so they can reject the whole thing altogether on some trivial detail


You can still find that detail. That's what I'm saying. People may contradict themselves in equational logic, however in a context format, if someone wants to affirm their incorrectness, they can, with your question.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
You can still find that detail. That's what I'm saying. People may contradict themselves in equational logic, however in a context format, if someone wants to affirm their incorrectness, they can, with your question.

Could you give an example?
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
If I say, ''pizza has pepperoni on it''
it's true
however, you could say
''pizza doesn't always have pepperoni on it''
also true.
So is ''pizza has pepperoni on it'', a true statement?

Your premise seems to be trying to make a situational idea, an absolute.

Hence, /although it might contradict other arguments/, anyone can claim that they are making judgements based on truth.

That's a crude example,

"That's a crude example"

And a syllogistic fallacy.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
If I say, ''pizza has pepperoni on it''
it's true
however, you could say
''pizza doesn't always have pepperoni on it''
also true.
So is ''pizza has pepperoni on it'', a true statement?

Your premise seems to be trying to make a situational idea, an absolute.

Hence, /although it might contradict other arguments/, anyone can claim that they are making judgements based on truth.

That's a crude example,

"Your premise seems to be trying to make a situational idea, an absolute."

No, it is not. You are adding context that is not there. The OP is not a end all be all statement about truth.

Tell me do you think it is possible for someone to be right and for someone to be wrong?
 
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whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
In general the second choice, but a wise person also knows not a caricature or judge a person based on a single perceived fault and so the outlying facts will not necessarily cause the wheels to come off the bus.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Ceteris paribus, who is more likely to make a poor judgment call?

Someone who believes what is not true and makes judgments based on those beliefs.

Or

Someone who believe what is true and makes judgments based on those beliefs.

I don't know why this has to be asked at all. How do you make a correct judgement based on incorrect information?
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Why would you make a poor judgement based on the truth???


YOU said it would be a poor judgement.
I feel it would be the best judgement based upon knowledge and
circumstances.
You don't want to debate, you merely want to argue.
See ya.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Why would you make a poor judgement based on the truth???

Get over your tantrum.

Not arguing, only made the one post to you.

I think you misread the OP. The question was which person was more likely to make a poor judgement call. You said the person most likely to make a poor jodgement call was the one who believed based on incorrect information as opposed to the truth. I was wondering why you thought that........
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Neither has knowledge so they are both subject to making poor judgment calls. Just because someone believes what is true, does not preclude them from being unjustified in their beliefs. This can lead to poor judgment.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
I don't know why this has to be asked at all. How do you make a correct judgement based on incorrect information?

"I don't know why this has to be asked at all."

This question is simple, but it is always interesting to see how people response to it.

Some people seem to think it some type of attack on some belief somewhere, but the question is designed to be completely neutral. It is not aimed at any certain belief.

It is a common sense question, and there is one obvious answer, but some have a problem with the word truth, but that is kind of the point, as truth has value; value that is too often overlooked.

The question is not really about belief at all, but about the value of truth. However, the question is not trying to define what that truth is; that is for each reader to determine.

So I think there are many aspects here that validate asking this question.

"How do you make a correct judgement based on incorrect information?"

Probably because having good judgement includes far more than simply having the correct information. Don't get me wrong, I definitely think good decision making and having accurate information are linked, but there is more to it then just being right.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
No one here is saying that.
I don't think I was asserting that someone was saying that. Rather, I was elaborating on why neither is more likely to make good or bad judgement than the other. Rather, as you indicate in your post above to MP, there is more to good judgement than simply truth. One needs truth and something more. Justified true belief? Some say we need more than this too. It is a very interesting topic. And am a little surprised at your treatment of my previous post.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
I don't think I was asserting that someone was saying that. Rather, I was elaborating on why neither is more likely to make good or bad judgement than the other. Rather, as you indicate in your post above to MP, there is more to good judgement than simply truth. One needs truth and something more. Justified true belief? Some say we need more than this too. It is a very interesting topic. And am a little surprised at your treatment of my previous post.

"there is more to good judgement than simply truth"

I also said, "I definitely think good decision making and having accurate information are linked."

and

"truth has value"

I am sorry but I don't agree with your statement, "neither is more likely to make good or bad judgement than the other."
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
"there is more to good judgement than simply truth"

I also said, "I definitely think good decision making and having accurate information are linked."

and

"truth has value"

I am sorry but I don't agree with your statement, "neither is more likely to make good or bad judgement than the other."
Certainly they are linked. Because truth and knowledge are linked. But without the other ingredients you are relying on luck in either situation.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Certainly they are linked. Because truth and knowledge are linked. But without the other ingredients you are relying on luck in either situation.

"the other ingredients"

All other variables equal, both have all those "other ingredients" who is more likely to make a good judgment call?
 
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