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Judging others by our own faith or religious beliefs, is it wrong?

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The heart of states is your emotion in those states, love is emotion but also about valuing. True actions are by their states/intentions. The love which is linked to faith.

If someone loves based on falsehood, and not on truth, and hate the truth about God, his chosen ones, and their believers, then this type of love is useless, evil and the actions will not be accepted from it.

This is because the purpose of love is to value things as they are. If you can't even value God and not equalize with him, and can't exalted his chosen ones, and not exalt non-chosen, and if you equate believers and disbelievers, while goodness is accepted from the former and not the latter since they equate evil with good and their actions don't take any pure form to ascend towards God, then such a person would be totally lost.

Those who respond to the sent ones, are not at all like, those who run away from them and chase a delusional world that even if the promises pertaining to it were true, is temporary anyways.

I speak truth I believe no matter how much people may dislike me for it.
But by judging others from my own belief, that create a problem in it self. If I were to judge a Hindu or Buddhist from the sufi teaching it would be judging them from something they do not believe in or following.

So the only one i could judge is my own being. Not others.

( do you believe you are a sent one?)
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
( do you believe you are a sent one?)

No I don't. The last sent ones are the family of Mohammad (s) and Isa (a), Idris (a) and others who ascended to heaven or safeguarded from the past will also one day return.

I consider myself a dust on their foot and hope they help me become their servant, nothing more.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

Okay, you can't judge another person based on their action, words and thoughts alone. I.e. there is not wrong or right in any such case. Wrong or right happens in you. It is a first person evolution in you.
What you can learn in judging is to use as universal parameters as possible so you don't use a double standard. But you will always use a standard in you.

There is a lot more to what is ethics in philosophy and how to do judge by using different parameters, but the core one is a double standard or universal one. But there is no single universal standard and when you look closer in effect there are different universal standards possible for different contexts.

As for judging another human as that human in her/him/themselves I even as an atheist leave that to God, if there is a God.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I don't find it at all useful to judge people.
I agree.

I need to be able to judge people's behaviors so that I can determine how to respond. But beyond that, I see no real benefit in judging other people because of their behaviors. My judgment isn't going to change them, nor should I ever have that power. But it WILL change me. And not necessarily in a good way. So I think it's something I should try to avoid.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Okay, you can't judge another person based on their action, words and thoughts alone. I.e. there is not wrong or right in any such case. Wrong or right happens in you. It is a first person evolution in you.
What you can learn in judging is to use as universal parameters as possible so you don't use a double standard. But you will always use a standard in you.

There is a lot more to what is ethics in philosophy and how to do judge by using different parameters, but the core one is a double standard or universal one. But there is no single universal standard and when you look closer in effect there are different universal standards possible for different contexts.

As for judging another human as that human in her/him/themselves I even as an atheist leave that to God, if there is a God.
Their view of right and wrong may be different than mine, so if using their understand then one can say they diviated from their own right or wrong.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Their view of right and wrong may be different than mine, so if using their understand then one can say they diviated from their own right or wrong.

Well, as far as I can tell most people as through their biology stop at a double standard, because it works in some sense. I.e. cognitive development in western science terms, but some of us, you included, look further and try to learn to do it differently.
You do that as a Sufi and I do it as a global skeptic, but I can still spot similarities. :)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Well, as far as I can tell most people as through their biology stop at a double standard, because it works in some sense. I.e. cognitive development in western science terms, but some of us, you included, look further and try to learn to do it differently.
You do that as a Sufi and I do it as a global skeptic, but I can still spot similarities. :)
Because there are similarities:)
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:
Why judge others at all, other than for association, or not?
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

Why would you judge by what you hold to be error?

I don't find it wrong because I consider Christ to be the standard and rule of all. To judge a person by their own standard when I think it is wrong to me would be like to say a murderer did good because by his own standard he achieved his aim well, yet I do not do that.

Such is my opinion.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Why would you judge by what you hold to be error?

I don't find it wrong because I consider Christ to be the standard and rule of all. To judge a person by their own standard when I think it is wrong to me would be like to say a murderer did good because by his own standard he achieved his aim well, yet I do not do that.

Such is my opinion.
Because I dont tell others what should be right for them to believe according to my own personal faith in sufism.
They don't follow the same as I do, how could i tell them they are wrong?
Only if the brake the law of the country could i point it out for them.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Because I dont tell others what should be right for them to believe according to my own personal faith in sufism.
They don't follow the same as I do, how could i tell them they are wrong?
Only if the brake the law of the country could i point it out for them.

They don't follow the same ideas as you but should they? If your ideas are true then can theirs also be true?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:
How are we to judge other people, then, if not by our own beliefs?
Why must judgement be based on faith or religious beliefs?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:
If the person's actions are likely to cause harm to me and to those I care about, then I would judge him/her in a negative manner.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

Depends.

According to my faith, mocking another people is bad. So when "a people", mock "another people", I will judge them.
 
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