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Judging others by our own faith or religious beliefs, is it wrong?

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:
do not judge based on outward appearance. judge based on action, or right judgement.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If the person's actions are likely to cause harm to me and to those I care about, then I would judge him/her in a negative manner.
I'd expand this a bit, and end the sentence with "harm."
Even bad people rarely cause harm to those they care about.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

Well, you shouldn't, depending on what you are judging.

If a religion encourages some bad social actions, such as killing or stealing, then its adherents can be criticized for being harmful to societies harmony if they practice such things.

If you criticizes another person because of mere theological reasons, such as bowing down to statues and images, then I would advise that that person actually study the worldview of the other persons faith, because often times the criticizer is judging another by what their religion says about the other, and not on the believers actual faith.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Why would you judge by what you hold to be error?

I don't find it wrong because I consider Christ to be the standard and rule of all. To judge a person by their own standard when I think it is wrong to me would be like to say a murderer did good because by his own standard he achieved his aim well, yet I do not do that.

Such is my opinion.

That is not all cases of morality.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:
It really isn't for us to judge others, but we often find ourselves confronted with actions that require judgement -- if only in order to respond appropriately.

Judging someone's action right or wrong (throwing the baby out of a moving car could rightfully be judged wrong), but judging the person is beyond our ken.

It's rather like John Stuart Mill suggested about the right to free expression of thought: anyone who would suppress the ideas of another can only do so from a supposed position of omniscience -- and none of is omniscient.

So back to that baby -- maybe the person who tossed the baby saw that the car was just about to go over a cliff, and no way to stop it. Maybe there was a gunman in the front seat just about to shoot. Maybe a brain lesion caused a severe hallucination.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It really isn't for us to judge others, but we often find ourselves confronted with actions that require judgement -- if only in order to respond appropriately.

Judging someone's action right or wrong (throwing the baby out of a moving car could rightfully be judged wrong), but judging the person is beyond our ken.

It's rather like John Stuart Mill suggested about the right to free expression of thought: anyone who would suppress the ideas of another can only do so from a supposed position of omniscience -- and none of is omniscient.

So back to that baby -- maybe the person who tossed the baby saw that the car was just about to go over a cliff, and no way to stop it. Maybe there was a gunman in the front seat just about to shoot. Maybe a brain lesion caused a severe hallucination.
I really like what you said here @Evangelicalhumanist
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

I feel like we can judge people when and if we use solid reasoning and valid argumentation to make said judgement.

It also kind of depends what the judgement is about.

Having said that, it seems to me that if one is going to judge someone, one can only do it according to ones beliefs. How else could you judge someone or some situation or event?

You necessarily need some type of baseline to start from. And if not your beliefs, then what?
It would be kind of strange to start from a baseline that you don't even agree with, right?
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

If I judge, and I admit I can be very judgmental, it’s not based on religious beliefs. It’s based more on behavior. I have a cousin by marriage whom I cannot stand. He’s a thief, a liar, a drug addict, an alcoholic. He’s stolen items from us. I don’t want him around us, I don’t want to be around him. He’s one of only a few people I’ve ever called a loser. Ironically he thinks the world of me ... wait, maybe that’s not saying much about me. o_O I do find judgement distasteful because I’m sure people have their judgements about me. So yeah, Matthew 7:1-2.
 

idea

Question Everything
If the person's actions are likely to cause harm to me and to those I care about, then I would judge him/her in a negative manner.

Yes, that is what it comes down to. I am currently preparing for the holidays - getting together with family whose beliefs reject my precious trans child and their partner. My child and their partner are both in college, scholarships, amazing gifted responsible people excelling academically who are talented friendly amazing people - and they are rejected flat out by so many in my family. It hurts. I love everyone in my family, know it is just their background that they are unable to see people for who they really are, and reject those who hold different beliefs - still love all family members, and am holding my breath to gently bring everyone together in a way that will not hurt anyone. Love conquers all right?
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:
Judging others is a quality deeply built into our instincts. I remember a British TV documentary from the 1990s which demonstrated that when meeting a person of (in the examples used) the opposite sex, men in the first instant unconsciously glanced at the female face, breasts and face, and women unconsciously glanced at the male groin and face.

And judging others is always the first step to knowing whether at any particular moment you're safe or not, whether physically or regarding psychological pressures. And how you should behave, and who has what authority, relative to your own place in the peck order, and so on.

Although the details of your response may vary according to culture, the principles of personal safety and staying out of trouble unless you have reason not to, are universal, and can be observed in nearly all gregarious animals in the wild.

We're also born with moral instincts, to dislike the one who harms, to like fairness and reciprocity, to respect authority, to be loyal to the group, and to get a sense of self-worth through self-denial. We also have a built-in capacity for empathy and a conscience. I'm inclined to think that if we add a dash of common sense to how we apply our moral outlook, we'll improve our chances on agreeing about a lot of things.
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief?

To answer your question, I ask, Does the Qur'ān and/or the Islamic tradition teach that you are to judge people? If it does, then you are to judge other people based on what you believe in.

But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?

I think there is a list in Sūrah Al-Baqarah of what the deeds of a righteous person are according to God. If I myself were a Muslim, I would judge other individuals by that standard.

I don't necessarily judge them to be bad people for having those beliefs, but if I don't judge them to be wrong I don't really believe what I claim to.

Exactly.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yeah, it is always context, context, context. Anyone can claim a general universal standard, but it can break down for the everyday world. So it is better IMO to have several standards depending on contexts.
Yeah, that is what I think of people who trumpet love. Most of the time they hide a dagger in their hand.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
This question has been troubeling me for some time now.

How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...

Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?

Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs :confused:

Judge not lest ye be judged (Jesus, Sermon on the Mount).

Yet, we must not follow Satan.

We must recognize Satan to avoid following him.

We must judge Satan in order to understand who Satan is.

For example, we must look a the mess in the world, and figure out how it got this way.

We have homelessness, wars, torture camps, debt, pollution, and Global Warming.

All we have to do is following the blood trail (wars and torture camps) to find Satan.

Or, we can follow the trail of greed (cutting taxes for the rich while the homeless freeze).

Or, we can follow the trail of callousness, and see who opposes universal health care (remember, Jesus healed the sick regardless of their ability to pay).

Or, we can follow the fearmongering. Satan rules by fear (among other things). Remember the phony Orange Alerts that were designed to instill fear in the American people so that we would support a war with North Korea. Tom Ridge, head of Homeland Security, said that he was in charge of issuing Orange Alerts, but that he did not issue them, but the orders came from higher up (W. Bush or Cheney).

Satan rules by fear, greed, and deception.
 
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