Judgment Day May 21st 2011

[Pegg]

Judgment Day May 21st 2011

can someone bump this thread on the 22nd of May?

 

[Twilight Hue]

can someone bump this thread on the 22nd of May?

I'll start post-rapture and post apocalyptic thread parties to where frubal door prizes will be handed out as we celebrate our continuance in the universe.

 

[7he4uthor]

I don't get this May 21, 2011 date. It's not on a feast day, not on Pentecost. The moon is waning gibbous about 4 days past full.
If anyone noticed, the Lord always fulfilled prophecy in accordance with the calendar and the Spring/Pentecost feast days were fulfilled at Christ's first coming at the time of the feast. There is nothing historically that fulfilled the autumn feasts yet, but God put them there for a purpose to denote His plan and prophecy (not to watch Israel party 3 times a year).
The feasts are: Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, Pentecost, Trumpets Atonement and Taberbacles. (There are several others the Jews added to commemorate things such as Purim and Hanukkah but the feasts designating God's plan are in Levitcus 23.) May 21, 2011 is not one of them.

Quote:
We ought to live as though Jesus is returning this very moment.
But won't it be wonderful when He does?

The Christ in Prophecy Journal: Harold Camping: Emergence of a New Cult

Here is the details of one reason the date is special.

In Genesis 7 we read:

Quote:
[11] In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
That day is according the the Hebrew or also known as the Lunar-Solar Calendar. When we convert that same date to the Gregorian calendar, we arrive at May 21st.

The idea is that the day Noah entered the safety of the ark, destruction hit the earth. So to, if we are not under the safety of Jesus, the same will happen on May 21st 2011.

If you want to look at the conversion yourself, you can do so at any link similar to this one:
Calendar Converter

The dates mentioned in the first quote are not Gregorian, they are from the Jewish lunar calendar.
So can you explain to me why we would need to convert them to anything else ?

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Passover 2011 Tuesday, the 19th of April - 26th
Full Moon April 18, 02:44
Harvest moon September 12, 2011
Yom Kippur in 2011 is on Saturday, the 8th of October

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Still I am inerested if you can explain the date conversions ...

 

[Renji]

the last few replies make clear that members didnt read the site info
may 21st was never camping's date for end world
it is the rapture

Oct 21st is ans was from the start his end world date


when people reply with opinions to info they never read
what does this indicate ??????????????????????????????????????????????

You quite remind me of a poster in this forum named FFH. You and that guy are quite similar in a way that you post some 'weird' things that attempts to give the 'exact' date of the apocalypse/ end of the world..

 

[jojo50]

can someone bump this thread on the 22nd of May?

Amen! i was thinking if Jesus said he don't know the end,why do man always think they know more? Jehovah could be ready before the 11th,like today!

 

[Just_me_Mike]

The Christ in Prophecy Journal: Harold Camping: Emergence of a New Cult



The dates mentioned in the first quote are not Gregorian, they are from the Jewish lunar calendar.
So can you explain to me why we would need to convert them to anything else ?

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Passover 2011 Tuesday, the 19th of April - 26th
Full Moon April 18, 02:44
Harvest moon September 12, 2011
Yom Kippur in 2011 is on Saturday, the 8th of October

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Still I am inerested if you can explain the date conversions ...

The only thing I was converting was May 21st 2011. I wasn't converting or suggesting any of your dates be converted.
I simply responded to this thread, because there was a quote that said May 21st wasn't even a special day according to feasts and celebrations etc... I just pointed out how it is the same day Noah entered the Ark according to the bible.

Hope that helps...

 

[7he4uthor]

You quite remind me of a poster in this forum named FFH. You and that guy are quite similar in a way that you post some 'weird' things that attempts to give the 'exact' date of the apocalypse/ end of the world..

i attempted nothing but to discuss an interesting topic
i stated no belief
you have made erronius presumptions, which speaks to your judgment/discerment
try paying better attention.

 

[7he4uthor]

I just pointed out how it is the same day Noah entered the Ark according to the bible.

Hope that helps...

if you can explain this better i'll be grateful
the convertion that is

 

[Just_me_Mike]

if you can explain this better i'll be grateful
the convertion that is

Sure...
Genesis 7

[11] In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Here we read the flood began on the second month, the seventeenth day of the month.

This day in the Hebrew calendar is the month of Lyyar, the 17th day. This day when converted to the Gregorian calendar is May 21.

You can see this on this link much easier.
Hebrew Date Converter - 17th of Iyyar, 5771 | Hebcal Jewish Calendar
Just plug in May 21 2011, click convert to Hebrew and you will see the new date is Lyyar 17. The same date Noah entered the ark.

 

[blackout]

I am SOOOOO much more worried about April 15th(18th).

I fear the government WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY more than I fear, God.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

I am SOOOOO much more worried about April 15th(18th).

I fear the government WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY more than I fear, God.

Matthew 22

[17] Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
[18] But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
[19] Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
[20] And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
[21] They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

 

[7he4uthor]

The October 28th end date of the Maya/Aztec/Olmec Calendar is 1 week after Camping's date of Oct. 21st,
... and 2 days after the new moon

The harvest moon is fall the time of death
The May Day moon is one of life
Like Beltane and Samhain witch do have significance in the lunar Jewish calendar as well.

Life = rapture = spring
Death = extermination = fall

2012 Forum • May 21, 2011...Not 2012 is Judgement Day, Really.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

The October 28th end date of the Maya/Aztec/Olmec Calendar is 1 week after Camping's date of Oct. 21st,
... and 2 days after the new moon

The harvest moon is fall the time of death
The May Day moon is one of life
Like Beltane and Samhain witch do have significance in the lunar Jewish calendar as well.

Life = rapture = spring
Death = extermination = fall

2012 Forum • May 21, 2011...Not 2012 is Judgement Day, Really.

Well, 7he4uthor, how do you explain this verse?
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

 

[confusedius]

Jim Jones figured out how to make his predictions be true...

 

[Willamena]

The October 28th end date of the Maya/Aztec/Olmec Calendar is 1 week after Camping's date of Oct. 21st,
... and 2 days after the new moon

The harvest moon is fall the time of death
The May Day moon is one of life
Like Beltane and Samhain witch do have significance in the lunar Jewish calendar as well.

Life = rapture = spring
Death = extermination = fall

Plus it's my birthday. It's all so meaningful.

 

[outhouse]

Well, 7he4uthor, how do you explain this verse?
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

I would explain it as the trinity is really 3 seperate gods/deitys

since one doesnt know what the other is doing, they cannot be one.

 

[Dan4reason]

Judgment Day May 21st 2011



yes things are simple when one text is taken literally and out of context with the rest of the book, if any of you had taken the time to visit the website you would see that other texts indicate that gods people will not be taken by surprise, Noah wasn’t taken by surprise [gods ppl] but the wicked were [as it was in Noah’s day so shall be the day of the lord]




Notice that those who love god WILL NOT be caught off-guard by $atan the thief.

1am surprised to read here that virtually no-one has read from the site that explains the formula given, anyone who had taken the 15 minutes to read it could not take one text and say ''its that simple''

Devoting ones life to god is not a simple thing, it would take approximately 400 years to read all the texts in the Vatican vaults at a 40 hour work week.

The books edited from the bible [Enoch etc] act as incredible context to set time lines for many bible events, this was removed by Rome.

The 3rd Fatima prophesy [from my source] states that the Vatican will fall under $atan$ power, this is the prophesy which the church said the public wasn’t ready for.

Is the public ready to know the date was also held back ?
I read the site and though the base theme of the formula didn’t make sense, the amount of cross-referencing commanded respect and drew my heart.
This kind of devotion is not as simple as reciting one text.








As a student of science and archeology 1 have seen the debunking of all known dating systems [carbon/layering/polarization/etc]

[Google; carbon dating and other dating methods]

look into it yourself ... all dating methods have many flaws which make placing dinosaurs, floods, volcanoes, ice ages, asteroid impacts, artifacts, etc virtually impossible. 0nly in cases where tablets, scripts or texts concur with the given dating method can there be any degree of certainty.








It doesn’t end mysteriously it is a completion of the 26,000 year star-precession cycle, something science and astronomy have been aware of since time immemorial, and which is marked by numerous pyramid and monument sites globally.

… and camping's date has nothing to do with the Maya calendar, which isn’t Maya, as the Mormons said Christ came to America from Jerusalem, the Olmec had it first according to the records 1ve studied.





Are those who are members in the body of Christ [the church] MEN ?
or
are they pieces of Christ ?



If you like … see post [by 7he4uthor] “Rebuilding the Temple - Anti-Christ”
relating to ‘signs’ of this article.

You are completely wrong for several reasons:

None of our modern dating methods have been debunked in the least. The fact that dating methods have margins of error, or that they do not work in certain situations which scientists are very well aware of does not mean that they are completely invalid. Environmental conditions do not affect radioactive decay rate very much as has been demonstrated over and over again. All the different kinds of radiometic dating techniques come up with about the same date (random?) about 4.5 billion years. Other dating techniques (e.g tree ring dating and ice core dating) prove that the earth is very old. Many things that we see in nature have to be old. Old stars must have been billions of years old, the grand canyon and coral reefs must have needed many years more that the genesis estimate to form.

There is no good evidence to say that any claims of the bible about the judement day are accurate because there is nothing to indicate that the bible is nothing more than myth and superstition like the koran and the vedas. Just because someone makes claims about supernatural events does not make him right.

There is no good evidence that the book of revelations, and many other books are indeed the word of God. There were very many christian and jewish holy writing which did not make it into the bible (book of Enoch, book of Judas), many of which were obviously fake.

The bible doesn't say squat about when the earth will end. The verse doesn't exist. end of story. Sorry.

Even if you calculate the judgement day according to the bible i hope you realize that humanity has not kept perfect track of every day since the creation. You cannot be sure that 4000 BC was really 4011 years ago. ror all we know we are off by days, years, decades, maybe even centuries.

There have been many scares about the end of the world all of which have not come true. Through past experience it is unwise to be convinced by this scare. People once thought that 1500 would be the end of the world and this was a motivator for Spain's persecuation and subsequent kicking out of the jews and muslims. Harold Camping the originator of this Judement day prediction has made many other predictions in the past all of which have not come true. Don't trust him or anyone else who proclaims endtimes. They have a bad track record.

 

[3Cheers4Lilith]

Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. You're a student of archaeology, but you buy into this horse puckey? What? I just...how?

 

[Evandr]

Hey, about the Mayan Calendar, you know what I think - I think that the Mayan Calendar man died without an apprentice and nobody cared enough to keep pushing forward a calendar that already went thousands of years into the future; or maybe they got bored with the whole calendar thing and abandoned it for more interesting endeavors; or maybe they stopped advancing the calendar when they found an era with really good coincidental reasons to make the ancestors of their enemies or plainly gullible people paranoid (I can just picture them all standing at the local water cooler having a good laugh about it); or perhaps they stopped making a calendar with such far reaching dates when it became apparent to them that they were not going to be there to take credit for it or maybe their peers stopped being impressed with their efforts. :yes: that's what I think, but it does make for a lot of high sounding debate.

 

[Evandr]

You are completely wrong for several reasons:

There is no good evidence.....

There is no good evidence that the book of revelations, and many other books are indeed the word of God.

Why is it that you will not accept that evidence does not have to be of ancient origin? I get so tied of hearing people holler "WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE!"

The evidence that validates the word of god comes in many forms and the tangible ones can almost always be argued over. Real time revelations from a real time God is the best evidence. Tangible can be disputed while revelation cannot, but only to the person to whom it is given. All others must either scoff at the claims of those who really know or take a "sour grapes" attitude. Either way I cannot make you know and understand what I know and understand so lets argue about it (or not) but in the end those who know will benefit thereby and those who do not - will not, it really is that simple.