Just wonderin'

[ChristineM]

I dismissed no one's death; neither theirs personally or that of a loved one. You seem to be able to see exactly what you want to see. Congrats!

Hmmm...

 

[columbus]

I dismissed no one's death; neither theirs personally or that of a loved one. You seem to be able to see exactly what you want to see. Congrats!

This post gives me reason to believe that my assessment was correct.
Tom

 

[Cooky]

I wonder what the ratio is between:

Those infected with coronavirus who die, and those infected with influenza who die.

because I think flu doesn't spread as easily.
Record numbers of coronavirus cases in every global region - Reuters tally

In other words, if this many people caught the flu in one year, then I wonder if the flu would have killed as many as coronavirus.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Then what did New Zealand do? Let the virus run free like America? No. They pretty much set the global standard for controlling the spread of a pandemic (and many Kiwis here will eagerly and proudly boast their country's achievements). Shut down. Stay home. Wear a mask and wash your hands when you must leave.

I'm sure there's more to it than that.

 

[ChristineM]

I wonder what the ratio is between:

Those infected with coronavirus who die, and those infected with influenza who die.

because I think flu doesn't spread as easily.
Record numbers of coronavirus cases in every global region - Reuters tally

In other words, if this many people caught the flu in one year, then I wonder if the flu would have killed as many as coronavirus.

Each year there are between 3 to 5 million cases of influenza and between 1/4 and 1/2 million people die according to the w.h.o.

Up to now (just checked) there has been 15.8 million cases of covid19, 9.1 million people have recovered. So 6.7 million still have it 641 million people have died.

 

[Cooky]

Each year there are between 3 to 5 million cases of influenza and between 1/4 and 1/2 million people die according to the w.h.o.

Up to now (just checked) there has been 15.8 million cases of covid19, 9.1 million people have recovered. So 6.7 million still have it 641 million people have died.

So we won't know for sure until the 12 month period is complete.

 

[ChristineM]

So we won't know for sure until the 12 month period is complete.

And untill all those still infected either recover or die

 

[BSM1]

No it’s not. It’s a plea for not minimising the deaths of people just because you weren’t personally affected. I don’t need to know anyone who personally died in a car crash in order to follow road safety.

So that's a yes then?

 

[BSM1]

This post gives me reason to believe that my assessment was correct.
Tom

Of course it is...

 

[BSM1]

I have never said you have treated me with disrespect. In fact i respect you very much. I simply feel you are letting humanity down with your mockery of a serious and deadly disease.

Your comment in your post 23 is certainly not worth respect nor is the mockery you have posted.

I mocked nothing of the sort. Are you seeing what you want to see also?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sounds more like you disagree with people in general who disagree with masks

Yes. I do. As much as I do anti-vaxxers. The science does not agree with people who disagree with masks. And in this case it has a significantly greater potential to spread do serious and fatal harm to others than if you just "wear a damn mask." (Legal group from Indiana)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

P.s. ~I can't help but point out that the USA situation would be less problematic if Trump had exhibited better leadership early on. More foresight, less political partisanship, we'd all be better off now.....~

I cant help but repeat that so it geta pointed out again.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Also, I noticed that threads that challenge the opposing view of COVID are deleted,

Because the admins and mods here are acting with a sense of responsibility. It was also decided early in the pandemic, complete with a thread to announce it, that misinformation about Covid was made against the rules.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm sure there's more to it than that.

Not really. The data is very overwhelmingly consistent, shutting down, stayimg home, and wearing a mask and washing hamds whem you leave home has been the key to success in every country that isnt seeing rampant cases and/or regretting their initial plans (such as Swedens initial plan of herd immunity- they regret taking that path).

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Because the admins and mods here are acting with a sense of responsibility. It was also decided early in the pandemic, complete with a thread to announce it, that misinformation about Covid was made against the rules.

Rules aside.

Anything that challenges the other side of the coin is disregarded. I bet if I made a "Trump is a good president" people will have an uproar. If you can't see two sides of the coin, it's nothing but complaints, arguments (rather than debates), and siding with people who agree with you (people in general) while finding negative intent behind those who seemingly disagree.

I know its an RFian thing to do. But regardless, my context/intent still stands.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I bet if I made a "Trump is a good president" people will have an uproar.

There are debate boards here. Why shouldn't it happen?

If you can't see two sides of the coin, it's nothing but complaints, arguments (rather than debates), and siding with people who agree with you (people in general) while finding negative intent behind those who seemingly disagree.

With Covid, those other sides are getting people severely sick and killing them. It's not mere disagreement, but rather an issue of life and death. Literally.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Not really. The data is very overwhelmingly consistent, shutting down, stayimg home, and wearing a mask and washing hamds whem you leave home has been the key to success in every country that isnt seeing rampant cases and/or regretting their initial plans (such as Swedens initial plan of herd immunity- they regret taking that path).

I guess I'm agnostic to all of this. Can't take sides since I don't know all the facts and can't know all the facts. (I don't take anything on the media and internet as is). Best I can do is keep up to date what's happening in my state and country and move on from there.

 

[SomeRandom]

So that's a yes then?

If I say yes, what does that mean for you? Is this an exercise to measure the possible scope of the pandemic and how it can affect people?
Did you wish to discuss the implications of a society going through a pandemic whilst we work on a possible vaccine? The ethical obligations individuals have towards themselves and greater society?
The possible observation of outright selfishness pervading the culture as people don’t like being slightly inconvenienced for the “greater good.” And how that could signal a very callous and selfish nature?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I guess I'm agnostic to all of this. Can't take sides since I don't know all the facts and can't know all the facts. (I don't take anything on the media and internet as is). Best I can do is keep up to date what's happening in my state and country and move on from there.

Which brings me back to that being a part of how you got lumped in BSM1. You defended him despite his past record of posts regarding covid, and your own history of covid posts isn't up with current knowledge, data, and facts. The doubt and the questioning and applying it to BSM1s posts is how you got put with him.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Which brings me back to that being a part of how you got lumped in BSM1. You defended him despite his past record of posts regarding covid, and your own history of covid posts isn't up with current knowledge, data, and facts. The doubt and the questioning and applying it to BSM1s posts is how you got put with him.

I defended him by saying people were negative to his original OP. It had nothing to do with the context of his post. It was as is.

I mentioned that, aside from the links I posted in one thread or another, it's based on: my personal experience, my opinion, my observation, and what I thought about the situation.

Like I said. I don't keep up with data and statistics because if I kept seeing deaths (and not the other side of the story), like in my other threads, I'd be a hypocondriac.

I don't follow BSM1 post. The OP only had a question as is. I didn't read into it nor do I know what BSM1 believes (or use that against him if I did read his other posts).

(Edit. Somewhere in one of these posts I listed my opinions about COVID and the thread/posts they were attached to. Outside of that, it sounds like a lot of assumptions and not facts)