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Justify creationism over evolutionism

bluZero

Active Member
You didn't technically "misquote" him, but you took something he said, that he had the intent of being sarcastic, or jokey, and took it seriously. So, in a way it is a misquote.

Well then, just Probably, like his ability to translate anything, it is faulty. :yes: TY!
 

bluZero

Active Member
I noticed the sarcasm, I think it's your inability to recognize sarcasm to further boast your religious agenda. :p

Maybe I am just not good at reading charts. It did seem odd to begin with, so I allowed the last things he said in the chart to register only.
 

Sonic247

Well-Known Member
"Sure they do, it's just change over time. I can grow new cells with mutations."

That statement shows a profound and deep failure to understand what ToE says. I am willing to bet (you name the $) that you NEVER in your entire life not once ever held in your grubby gnarled fingers a copy of Darwin's Origins - much less read a single word.

You haven't even grasped the implications of PW's observation that populations evolve - not individuals. You are really arguing that acquired characteristics are inherited. A 19th century fallacy that Darwin exposed.

One could say you have no idea what you are talking about. But that would be undue charity.:rolleyes:
hahaha good one. Well if your toe talks to you that's personal business and say what you want about my intellect but leave my fingers out of this.
 

Sonic247

Well-Known Member
Nope. The genes for the different beaks came into existence by mutation, and were kept in the populations by natural selection. The same bird does NOT carry genes for long, short, strong, delicate, thick, thin, heavy, light etc. beaks.
Prove they came into existence by a mutation.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Why do you know of a case where a bird has new genetic information?
Yes, but to be completely frank with you genetics is something I a struggling to understand myself, I really don’t have the adequate expertise to explain it to you at this time. Hopefully someone with more understanding and eloquence will pick up on this.
 

Sonic247

Well-Known Member
Well if evolutionists are right they came from dinosaurs. I've never seen a lizard with feathers but oh well to each his own. I guess it's like a huge jigsaw puzzle, some pieces fit together and evolutionists hope to find other pieces to connect them all.
 
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Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Well if evolutionists are right they came from dinosaurs. I've never seen a lizard with feathers but oh well to each his own.

We all came from the same place, no matter what your idea is. To the most broadest sense we are all related in some way to every living thing on earth.
 

Sonic247

Well-Known Member
Well that's true. It's just that the places are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. Creationist believe the beginning is God who created everything which then gradually went down hill. Less species over time damaging mutation etc. On the other hand evolutionist's believe life started as very simple organisms and became more complex over time.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Well that's true. It's just that the places are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. Creationist believe the beginning is God who created everything which then gradually went down hill. Less species over time damaging mutation etc. On the other hand evolutionist's believe life started as very simple organisms and became more complex over time.

I'm aware of what creationists believe. Your last statement however, was spot on. Can you think of any natural causes that don't start from a simple beginning?
 

Sonic247

Well-Known Member
Well I can't use those because I can't trace them back to the beginning. I know what your thinking; it starts with a small seed and becomes a big tree. The thing is though the seeds come from a big tree and it becomes the classic "what came first the chicken or the egg." (it's the chicken-the more complex)
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Well I can't use those because I can't trace them back to the beginning. I know what your thinking; it starts with a small seed and becomes a big tree. The thing is though the seeds come from a big tree and it becomes the classic "what came first the chicken or the egg." (it's the chicken-the more complex)

No, I'm saying you tell me what doesn't start from simple beginnings through natural processes. I was just giving you an example of what I was referring to as natural.
 

Sonic247

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm. Well I guess I could use a tree; it starts out with all these complex processes like photosynthesis and then dies and becomes dirt which doesn't do much.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm. Well I guess I could use a tree; it starts out with all these complex processes like photosynthesis and then dies and becomes dirt which doesn't do much.

A tree starts from simpler beginnings(acorns) and emerges into a more complex system, so, trees aren't an example of that at all. Trees evolve, yes, I said evolve. These are natural processes that we've come to know. You never see anything by natural processes just sprout into existence.
 
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