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JW's in Norway lose government funding

nPeace

Veteran Member
It sounds like you're debating here. Not to worry, I've let the mod staff know this thread should be moved to a debate forum, since you've made it into one.
Your opinion on what is discussing and what is debating seem a bit... I don't know ____, but I hope the mods see you have a bone to pick, and don't move threads just so you can get something off your chest.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
I want to give you the opportunity to blow off some of that steam @Windwalker, so I will create the thread for you.
I believe @The Kilted Heathen created this thread in this forum for a reason - It's a current event. So give me a few minutes, and I will have that debate thread up.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
From what students of the Bible know, people will soon see what their governments really are.
We may tell them, but they may think we are fanatics.

The Bible however, made it clear from the begining what man-made rule would involve - you know this from the Tanakh, in the book of Samuel.
The Bible also tells us what their role will be, before they are taken out, and whose direction they are under.

It's only a matter of time, before people will actually see what is coming.
It's time for reality check, I suppose we can say. ;)
If this governments is evil, what does it say about the JWs that they were happy to be subsidized by an evil government?

How does it reflect on the morals and ethics of the Watchtower Society to willingly suckle at the teat of the antichrist?
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
From what students of the Bible know, people will soon see what their governments really are.
We may tell them, but they may think we are fanatics.

The Bible however, made it clear from the begining what man-made rule would involve - you know this from the Tanakh, in the book of Samuel.
The Bible also tells us what their role will be, before they are taken out, and whose direction they are under.

It's only a matter of time, before people will actually see what is coming.
It's time for reality check, I suppose we can say. ;)
This is not a discussion. It's preaching. Therefore it belongs in a debate thread.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I want to give you the opportunity to blow off some of that steam @Windwalker, so I will create the thread for you.
I believe @The Kilted Heathen created this thread in this forum for a reason - It's a current event. So give me a few minutes, and I will have that debate thread up.
Oh, I made a mistake. I thought it was you who had started this thread. That said, however, your comments were debating, so they belong in the other thread. You should keep to the rules of the forums yourself.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Then Christianity is utterly inappropriate for children as the concept and teaching of Hell has a long established history of being emotionally harmful, traumatic and abusive towards children.
I believe Christians who weaponize the Bible against any human being, let alone against children are seriously misguided, to put it mildly. Anyone who uses religion to coerce through force, which shunning, threats of damnation, and other such violent tactics, are guilty of violating the spirit of the religion itself. I wouldn't say Christianity is inappropriate. I'd say weaponizing the religion is. I consider it a form of evil.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I believe Christians who weaponize the Bible against any human being, let alone against children are seriously misguided, to put it mildly. Anyone who uses religion to coerce through force, which shunning, threats of damnation, and other such violent tactics, are guilty of violating the spirit of the religion itself. I wouldn't say Christianity is inappropriate. I'd say weaponizing the religion is. I consider it a form of evil.
The Bible itself says the Saints will be shown those who are suffering in Hell and it will make them feel more blissful about being with their "righteous god." It is written that everyone they know and love who dies who wasn't a Christian (or the correct flavor of Christian) is eternally damned, cast forever in to darkness, into a burning furnace to face eternal destruction and torment. That's not what these Christians believe or what those Christians believe, this is what the Bible of all Christians says.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
If this governments is evil, what does it say about the JWs that they were happy to be subsidized by an evil government?

How does it reflect on the morals and ethics of the Watchtower Society to willingly suckle at the teat of the antichrist?
I just typed out a whole post, only to find the thread deleted..
I'm not sure if the mods allow users to retrieve their hard work from a deleted post. :) So, you'll have to give me some time.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
This part is interesting,,, It also means that society loses the authority to marry.

Why would government think they can authorize who are allowed to marry? Is marriage a governmental arrangement, or a god given arrangement?/
Marriage is a legal arrangement, overseen by the government. The only role that religion plays - legally speaking - is notarizing the marriage licence, to then be approved by the government before the marriage certificate is issued.

Removing that authority, as here, means that marriage licences signed by Jehovah's Witness clergy is not legally valid.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I think the other one's disappeared. Or I'm going mad. Or both.
No - it's gone... but I thought I was in the now-deleted thread when I posted that link.

I got myself confused, but I've now had my Christmas Eve afternoon nap, so I should be thinking more clearly now.
 
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