Kabir

[WonderWho]

I just saw a wonderful documentary on the different views and communities who revere Kabir. It's is done by travelling there in India and Pakistan.
It's 100 minutes and well-worth seeing the whole film.

here'sthe link

Had Anhad: Journeys With Ram & Kabir (Bounded-Boundless)

http://www.cultureunplugged.com/play/2831/Had-Anhad--Journeys-With-Ram---Kabir--Bounded-Boundless-

 

[Ravi500]

I am very fond of Kabir myself.

There is a very interesting fact about him.

He was a weaver who was also an enlightened master, deeply engrossed in the bliss of divine Consciousness .

He used to weave clothes in this meditative state of bliss and songs of love. The quality of the clothe he weaved was not that great as he used to fall in samadhi now and then in deep bliss. However there was a line of customers for him, eager to buy his cloth even though much better quality cloth existed elsewhere.

They were just interested in getting his cloth soaked with his sattvic,blissful and loving vibrations knowing well that he was an enlightened master.

:namaste

 

[WonderWho]

The writings of Kabir has inspired me for more than 40 years during all of my inner-journeys, whether Theist or not.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Same for me. Kabir was a diamond in the philosophical scene in India (though I am an atheist). My homage to the great thinker.
As for Babri Mosque, I think the Muslims should accept the wrong done to Hindus and willingly give the area to Hindus. Hindus will make an even bigger and more beautiful mosque for them wherever they ask us to. Same for Kashmi Vishvanath and Krishna Janmabhoomi.

 

[Treks]

Thank you for sharing the link.

Kabir's writing is very good, even going just by the shabads included in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It would be interesting to compare those poems to his other work.

His metaphors are sometimes very abstract and difficult to understand.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Kabir's writing is very good, even going just by the shabads included in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. .. His metaphors are sometimes very abstract and difficult to understand.

I do not think Kabir ever wrote anything.

 

[Treks]

Can you extrapolate, please? Are you saying he spoke and others wrote, or that he was a conduit through which Something Else was expressing Itself? (I wouldn't think the latter going by your atheist tag but you never know)

 

[Aupmanyav]

Are you saying he spoke and others wrote, ..

Exactly, I think he was unlettered, adopted by a poor weaver; and can the most learned hold a candle to him? I may be an atheist, but I give credit where it is due.

 

[Treks]

Do we know if he penned anything himself, at all?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Well, his verses are there in Sri Guru Granth Sahib (I am told nearly 1/5 of the whole). Must be at least as old. Has his sect, etc. Then public remembrance is very strong in India. The others would not have his vision and it would be very difficult to fake.

 

[Treks]

I guess some one wrote some thing down at some time. o.o

According to this site, of the 3,384 "hymns" in the Guru Granth Sahib, 292 of them are attributed to Kabir. I'm not sure if they were 292 really long ones, though.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Length does not matter, content is important.

"kahi kabir meri sankā nāsi sarab niranjan dīthā. ||4||3||

 

[Treks]

Well, his verses are there in Sri Guru Granth Sahib (I am told nearly 1/5 of the whole).

I was merely addressing this statement. The number of his shabads is not 1/5 of the total, so for his content to make up nearly 1/5 of the entire Guru Granth Sahib Ji they would need to be substantially long ones.

Also I'm not so well learned in Gurbani to understand your quote, and can't look it up without the Gurmukhi or the ang number. Unless your quote is not even from Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

 

[Aupmanyav]

"kahi kabir meri sankā nāsi sarab niranjan dīthā."

sankā=Shankā=doubts, nāsi=ran away, sarab=Sarvatra=everywhere, Niranjan=one without blemishes or the one who is spotless and pure, dīthā=Drishtah=saw.

Says Kabir my doubts ran away when I saw the pure/spotless everywhere.
(Gurbani)

 

[Treks]

Found it! The whole shabad by Kabir Ji starts at the bottom of this page. Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib

 

[Treks]

What is your interpretation of this shabad? Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok SGGS Page 481

 

[WonderWho]

Kabir is always challenging peoples concepts about things. Not only religious systems.

In this poem is saying that reality/Truth is not limited by our ideas and there is a source beyond all concepts. That where Truth is.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Kabir, Kabir. No one could have written a hymn like this. Thanks WonderWho for your explanation, but I have yet to understand it fully. Thanks, Treks, for the link.

 

[Treks]

For reference, here is an index of Kabir Ji's shabads in the Guru Granth Sahib: Sri Guru Granth Sahib Raags Index - Author: Bhagat Kabir - SearchGurbani.com

The link take you to pages in the Granth Sahib so you need to go through the verses until you reach the right ones - they will say Kabir under every line.

Or if you prefer you can download them all as a PDF from here: http://gurbanifiles.org/bani_by_author/index.htm

 

[Aupmanyav]

Thanks, Treks. I will go through them. Kabir is always a delight. Of them, Pipaji and Dhannaji were Rajasthani (I am from Rajasthan).