Kamala Harris major border policy speech

[Copernicus]

Harris is often criticized for being vague about policies she intends to implement, although Trump is arguably even more vague and less clear. She has just given a major policy speech on her plans for border security in Arizona. Basically, she plans to bring back the bipartisan bill that Donald Trump ordered Congressional Republicans to kill. She also remarks on her experiences as a prosecutor of drug cartels in California, and how that affects her approach to the Fentanyl crisis. She gives remarks on additional policies that go beyond the border bill that she hopes to sign.

Here is the speech in its entirety (24 minutes) for those who care enough to watch it. You can skip the first three minutes leading up to the substance of the speech.

 

[esmith]

And where was this word salad the past 3+ years
Instead we have.....

 

[Kenny]

And where was this word salad the past 3+ years
Instead we have.....

It’s almost like “today’s policy” is created for your enjoyment so you can vote for me and then I will go back to my “Old Kamala”… and she approves of her flip flops for pragmatic sake declarations. How soon people forget.

 

[wellwisher]

That was a speech writer's policy. Why did Harris do the opposite for the past 4 years, and even allow so many foreign criminals to enter? Dems always make promises, just before elections, pretending to suddenly have common sense and think mainstream. Have you noticed oil prices are coming down just before the election, but will go back up, if Kamala is elected.

The main problem with the bi-partisan bill, that did not pass, was amnesty was in the bill. Let us reward 10 million plus who illegally entered. That will not create another massive surge of immigrants, trying to get in, before the new deadline.

I prefer consistency, like Trump, who has been saying the same policy and even made prediction of today, since 2016, and even earlier. Remember in 2016, Trump said countries were letting out their jails, and now we are getting all their criminals. We got a million criminals under Czar Harris. Fake DNC news lied about this then and now it is real. Harris and Biden reward these countries with extra foreign aid.

What will the Harris do about all the criminals she let in? Was that in her new policy? Give them amnesty? Right now they get no bail or jail for crime. Don't believe anything from the DNC, a month before election. Biden and Harris are still in office and can do this now. Why promise this for the future, and not do it now? Because it is all a scam for votes. That was the second time in four years Kamala visited the border. Why avoid the border, until election time, and then all of a sudden reverse course away from the DNC sanctioned invasion she endorsed?

How about Harris being sued for any criminal illegal alien, she let in, that harms any American citizens. Biden will be protected by the Supreme Court decision he rants about, but Czar Harris will become citizen Harris, and she can be brought to court and sued by families of victims. Let us have a moment of silence for all those citizens who were raped and killed due to Harris. Did it take their dead bodies for her to smell the coffee or is she still in denial and needs her day ni court to full wake up to the tragedy she created.

 

[Argentbear]

And where was this word salad the past 3+ years
Instead we have.....

I suppose tis is easier than actually addressing the OP.

There is a whole library clips of Trump's incoherent rantings. Should those be brought out?

 

[Twilight Hue]

And where was this word salad the past 3+ years
Instead we have.....

Senator Kennedy put it best when he said to the effect that one's beliefs are known only through one's actions. The rest is just cottage cheese.

 

[ChristineM]

Senator Kennedy put it best when he said to the effect that one's beliefs are known only through one's actions. The rest is just cottage cheese.

Does trump like cottage cheese? It seems he uses a lot of it

 

[Twilight Hue]

Does trump like cottage cheese? It seems he uses a lot of it

Depends on if he actually does what he says he's going to do. Of course his jokes being the obvious exception.

 

[Argentbear]

That was a speech writer's policy. Why did Harris do the opposite for the past 4 years, and even allow so many foreign criminals to enter?

She did? How exactly did she accomplish this?

Dems always make promises, just before elections, pretending to suddenly have common sense and think mainstream. Have you noticed oil prices are coming down just before the election, but will go back up, if Kamala is elected.

The white house sets gas prices and not the oil companies?

The main problem with the bi-partisan bill, that did not pass, was amnesty was in the bill. Let us reward 10 million plus who illegally entered. That will not create another massive surge of immigrants, trying to get in, before the new deadline.

here is the bipartisan bill in question. It is the one that Trump forced republican's to kill.

S.4361 - Border Act of 2024

**staff edit**
it authorizes asylum officers to adjudicate asylum claims
It limits removal proceedings timeframes
it limits reviews of denied claims
It establishes a stricter threshold for individuals to remain in the United States pending adjudication of an asylum petition.

I prefer consistency, like Trump, who has been saying the same policy and even made prediction of today, since 2016, and even earlier. Remember in 2016, Trump said countries were letting out their jails, and now we are getting all their criminals. We got a million criminals under Czar Harris. Fake DNC news lied about this then and now it is real. Harris and Biden reward these countries with extra foreign aid.

Yes racists are usually consistent when they lie about minorities.

What will the Harris do about all the criminals she let in?

Brown people are all criminals?

Was that in her new policy? Give them amnesty?

see above

Right now they get no bail or jail for crime. Don't believe anything from the DNC, a month before election. Biden and Harris are still in office and can do this now. Why promise this for the future, and not do it now? Because it is all a scam for votes. That was the second time in four years Kamala visited the border. Why avoid the border, until election time, and then all of a sudden reverse course away from the DNC sanctioned invasion she endorsed?

Actually I don't beleive anything you say

How about Harris being sued for any criminal illegal alien, she let in, that harms any American citizens. Biden will be protected by the Supreme Court decision he rants about, but Czar Harris will become citizen Harris, and she can be brought to court and sued by families of victims. Let us have a moment of silence for all those citizens who were raped and killed due to Harris.

Don't all those raped and killed due to Trump deserve a moment of silence?

 

[Twilight Hue]

She did? How exactly did she accomplish this?

The white house sets gas prices and not the oil companies?

here is the bipartisan bill in question. It is the one that Trump forced republican's to kill.

S.4361 - Border Act of 2024

**staff edit**
it authorizes asylum officers to adjudicate asylum claims
It limits removal proceedings timeframes
it limits reviews of denied claims
It establishes a stricter threshold for individuals to remain in the United States pending adjudication of an asylum petition.


.....

Are you just going to stop there, or are you going to include all the riders and earmarks the Democrats had put into that bill knowing that it would be unpassable?

 

[ChristineM]

Depends on if he actually does what he says he's going to do. Of course his jokes being the obvious exception.

Jokes? 'Lets build a wall and get Mexico to pay' comes to mind

Lets treat the courts that are prosecuting me as a joke.


You mean those sort of jokes?

 

[Argentbear]

Depends on if he actually does what he says he's going to do. Of course his jokes being the obvious exception.

Trumps actions certainly reflect his beliefs. Remind me just how many felonies he's been convicted of so far...

 

[Argentbear]

Are you just going to stop there, or are you going to include all the riders and earmarks the Democrats had put into that bill knowing that it would be unpassable?

It already passed the Republican controlled house.

But why don't you list all of these riders and earmarks you are talking about?

 

[Twilight Hue]

It already passed the Republican controlled house.

But why don't you list all of these riders and earmarks you are talking about?

OK here it is....

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-unveils-118-billion-bipartisan-bill-tighten-border-security-aid-2024-02-04/

So tell me what the hell does funding Ukraine and Israel have to do with securing our own borders?

 

[Argentbear]

OK here it is....

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-unveils-118-billion-bipartisan-bill-tighten-border-security-aid-2024-02-04/

So tell me what the hell does funding Ukraine and Israel have to do with securing our own borders?

Once again here is the actual bill passed by the house of representatives. The same bill senate republican's have refused to allow on the floor to be voted on:

S.4361 - Border Act of 2024

And nowhere in there is any mention of either the Ukraine or Israel. Imagine that.

 

[Pogo]

Does trump like cottage cheese? It seems he uses a lot of it

No, he just leaves the milk out on the counter for a week and then when it stinks complains that; See I told you milk was bad it comes with all these foreign germs polluting our essence.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That was a speech writer's policy. Why did Harris do the opposite for the past 4 years, and even allow so many foreign criminals to enter? Dems always make promises, just before elections, pretending to suddenly have common sense and think mainstream. Have you noticed oil prices are coming down just before the election, but will go back up, if Kamala is elected.

The main problem with the bi-partisan bill, that did not pass, was amnesty was in the bill. Let us reward 10 million plus who illegally entered. That will not create another massive surge of immigrants, trying to get in, before the new deadline.

I prefer consistency, like Trump, who has been saying the same policy and even made prediction of today, since 2016, and even earlier. Remember in 2016, Trump said countries were letting out their jails, and now we are getting all their criminals. We got a million criminals under Czar Harris. Fake DNC news lied about this then and now it is real. Harris and Biden reward these countries with extra foreign aid.

What will the Harris do about all the criminals she let in? Was that in her new policy? Give them amnesty? Right now they get no bail or jail for crime. Don't believe anything from the DNC, a month before election. Biden and Harris are still in office and can do this now. Why promise this for the future, and not do it now? Because it is all a scam for votes. That was the second time in four years Kamala visited the border. Why avoid the border, until election time, and then all of a sudden reverse course away from the DNC sanctioned invasion she endorsed?

How about Harris being sued for any criminal illegal alien, she let in, that harms any American citizens. Biden will be protected by the Supreme Court decision he rants about, but Czar Harris will become citizen Harris, and she can be brought to court and sued by families of victims. Let us have a moment of silence for all those citizens who were raped and killed due to Harris. Did it take their dead bodies for her to smell the coffee or is she still in denial and needs her day ni court to full wake up to the tragedy she created.

You may not have noticed, but Harris is the Vice President. What will her signature on a bill do? Will it make it legal? You see, there is only one CIC at a time in the U.S., and the Vice President doesn't actually have much power. So, have you been expecting her to overrule her boss -- the actual President?

This is a silly game that the Republicans have been playing but you should be intelligent enough to figure it out -- when you ask "what has she been doing for the last 4 years?" the answer is really quite simple: being the Vice President, doing what a Vice President is lawfully empowered to do by the Constitution of the United States.

How about Harris being sued for any criminal illegal alien, she let in, that harms any American citizens

Forum rules prevent me from accurately charactering such a statement, so I'll just ask you to show us the Clause in the Constitution that empoweres the VP to stop anyone entering the country.

 

[PureX]

We aren't going to get any real or meaningful plans for dealing with ANY of the major problems facing the nation from Harris at the moment because she is in the middle of a presidential campaign. No candidate in their right mind is going to be foolish enough to divulge any real plans they might have just so their opponent can shout from the rooftops about how horribly bad and stupid and disastrous those plans are. And there is virtually no chance whatever that this will not happen. Because Trump is desperate for anything to scream bloody murder about Harris. At the moment he's got nothing but silly schoolyard insults and it's making him look like an incompetent fool.

So of course Harris is going to be vague. She'd be an idiot not to be.

Also, to fix any of the many real problems this country is facing is going to require her to stand up to the corporate criminals that are causing all those problems, AND to all those in her own party that are in the pockets of those corporate criminals. This is a very tall order, and not one that would be likely to be very successful. And especially not if she were to start telegraphing her willingness to do so even before she got the job.

I have little hope that Harris will have the smarts or the courage to take on those corporate criminals and their many flunkies in her own party in any meaningful or effective way. But she would be an idiot to start talking about even trying to do it, right now. And who knows, maybe she'll surprise us.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Once again here is the actual bill passed by the house of representatives. The same bill senate republican's have refused to allow on the floor to be voted on:

S.4361 - Border Act of 2024

And nowhere in there is any mention of either the Ukraine or Israel. Imagine that.

Don't think it wasn't in there.

 

[Argentbear]

Don't think it wasn't in there.

Then where is it?


and where are all these riders and earmarks you were talking about?