savethedreams
Active Member
Being a sketpic is being opend minded, you giving the infromation 'time' and 'energy' and enough research to reject it then to just reject it and not learn about it anyway.
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"keep an open mind"...what does that really mean?
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Being a sketpic is being opend minded, you giving the infromation 'time' and 'energy' and enough research to reject it then to just reject it and not learn about it anyway.
waitasec
Veteran Member
as per the thread for which this one was in response to in a roundabout way
http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...es/119452-undercover-atheists-lds-church.html
there are those who are quick to just dismiss what ross and carrie did as being closed minded to what their religion had to offer...a means for which god would reveal himself... and since god didn't reveal himself then of course they HAD to be closed minded.
Fester
Active Member
IMO, skepticism, in its truest form, requires an open mind.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Mmmm -- I dunno; I haven't gotten that vibe from anyone. Nor was that my own opinion.
waitasec
Veteran Member
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
I took it to mean that they went in there expecting nothing to happen, so that baptism was a meaningless and empty ritual for them. Due to it not having any personal meaning, it had no effect on them and it was not the amazing and life-changing feeling that it is for one who follows that path and gives meaning to it.
That help?
St Giordano Bruno
Well-Known Member
waitasec
Veteran Member
so they didn't have an open mind...even though they told them they barely believed but hoped it to be true. as far as i am concerned that's pretty much my experience...i hoped that it would happen but nothing did...
i disagree, who doesn't hope to find what mormons claim?
it had no effect on them and it was not the amazing and life-changing feeling that it is for one who follows that path and gives meaning to it.
That help?
thats my point though...because nothing happened, they were not keeping an open mind....it's the only explanation. and i happen to disagree that is the only explanation...
:sw:
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
That's not what I'm saying, though.
I'm saying because it was empty of meaning and significance to them as it was not something that they believed in, nothing significant was likely to come of it - and nothing did.
Nothing about anything happening because they didn't have an open mind.
Many people would not like to find a deity, especially one of the Abrahamic claims, to be the true God.
waitasec
Veteran Member
but i think that is what you are saying because of the following...
how do you know it was empty of meaning? what i'm trying to convey is they broadcasted the inner thoughts of anyone who is willing to see what would happen who haven't bought into it yet because their criteria for believing wasn't satisfied but were waiting for it. and since baptism is considered to be the physical expression of the "wanting" to believe then they did it to see if god would reveal himself
how else does one begin to believe?
it's like that scary old guy that lives alone on the corner of the block one lives on...everytime you seem him he's frowning...and then one day one of your friends says...he's actually a nice person...sure you can take it their word at face value, but until you experience his niceness yourself will you be convinced that yeah, he is nice.
thebigpicture
Active Member
You have to have an open mind in order to be skeptical. I think people are open-minded in a lot of ways and just don't realize it until they have a reason to be skeptical. Something triggers doubt then they become a skeptic.
Does it?
So... you're closed to having your brains fall out.
idea
Question Everything
I think it means be willing to change your view, admit you are wrong when presented with new information...
avoid rationalizing/blaming/denying... avoid cognitive dissonance... take ego out of it.
waitasec
Veteran Member
yes it does.
theology is a slow progression, always holding on to the ideals of the past until the current understanding found in the real world challenges it and therefore calling for change...
for example;
the sun revolved around the earth
waitasec
Veteran Member
i agree, except for the rationalizing part...
Rationalizing is commonly known as making excuses.
waitasec
Veteran Member
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
Of course. Approach with caution...
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Yes. Not to be confused with most people who are close to having their brains fall out. That is, the ones whose brains haven't already fallen out.