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Keeping the Sabbath Day Holy

pwfaith

pwfaith

Active Member
sniper762 said:
In the New Testament the Christians started worshiping on Sunday b/c it was the first day of the week, the day of the resurrection of Christ.

im sorry but none of the scriptures you posted remotely imply this
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I didn't post any scriptures for that part :shrug:


  • 1 Corinthians 16:1-2
    Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.
This verse has Paul instructing the churches to meet together on the first day of the week (Sunday) to give offerings.


  • Acts 20:7
    On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.
Paul met with believers in Troas to worship and have communion, they came together on the first day of the week.

  • Romans 14:5-6
    In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God.

As followers of Christ, we are no longer under legalistic obligation, for the requirements of the law were fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
 
sniper762

sniper762

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all the years of my christian upbringing and teachings when i was younger proved quite fundamental and my religious knowledge became greatly enhanced when i began to study.
 
pwfaith

pwfaith

Active Member
sniper762 said:
all the years of my christian upbringing and teachings when i was younger proved quite fundamental and my religious knowledge became greatly enhanced when i began to study.
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Good for you, how does that make *my* Christian upbringing, Christian schooling, degree in Christian education and personal study null?
 
sniper762

sniper762

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neither of these scriptures imply the sabboth day. just to start saving early for later tithing
breaking bread and types of honoring god
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
pwfaith said:
I didn't post any scriptures for that part :shrug:


  • 1 Corinthians 16:1-2
    Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.
This verse has Paul instructing the churches to meet together on the first day of the week (Sunday) to give offerings.


  • Acts 20:7
    On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.
Paul met with believers in Troas to worship and have communion, they came together on the first day of the week.

  • Romans 14:5-6
    In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God.

As followers of Christ, we are no longer under legalistic obligation, for the requirements of the law were fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
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What makes you think that Sunday is the first day of the week?
I notice that you added the word Sunday in parenthesis after the words 'first day of the week', but I see nothing to indicate that Sunday is the first day of the week.
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
sniper762 said:

i think that you have grossly misinterpreted the scripture
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The scriptures speak for themselves and they clearly say that the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between God and Israel.

“Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. Exodus 31:13
 
Shermana

Shermana

Heretic
pwfaith said:
I didn't post any scriptures for that part :shrug:


  • 1 Corinthians 16:1-2
    Now about the collection for God's people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.
This verse has Paul instructing the churches to meet together on the first day of the week (Sunday) to give offerings.


  • Acts 20:7
    On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.
Paul met with believers in Troas to worship and have communion, they came together on the first day of the week.

  • Romans 14:5-6
    In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God.

As followers of Christ, we are no longer under legalistic obligation, for the requirements of the law were fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
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The whole "fulfilled" thing again. He specifically says "I did not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets but fulfill them". Somehow that translates to "I came to abolish the Law by fulfilling them." The word "fulfill" does not mean "Do away with and terminate". When Jesus' "Joy was fulfilled", does that mean his joy was abolished? No.

If you are not under Legalistic requirements, why are you not allowed to commit adultery? What happens if you do? (Many Christians notably run away from this subject for whatever reason...) Are you now allowed to no longer honor your parents either? Are you allowed to strike your parents? Are you allowed to **** in a public pool too? Anytime anyone complains about "Legalism", they must accept the can of worms they have opened and dig in. Are you allowed to curse your parents now? If not, why not? Are you allowed to defraud? If not, what is the penalty? Are you allowed to tell lies? Most Christians seem to have NO problem with telling lies.

Do you really want to be considered the "Least" in the Kingdom of Heaven?

Even Paul was not as anti-legalist as many try to make him out to be. Romans 2:13 "It is not those who hear the Law, but those who OBEY the Law who will be declared righteous".

What Paul is referring to in those quotes is not about the Sabbath itself and disobeying it. If he was, he would have been rightfully stoned to death at his trial. Worshippnig the Lord on the Sabbath is not the issue, it is about resting and not working. You can worship the Lord any day you want.
 
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McBell

McBell

Unbound
sniper762 said:
show me
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Please note that your post 170 talking about presented scriptures is right after my post 169:
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pwfaith

pwfaith

Active Member
Mestemia said:
What makes you think that Sunday is the first day of the week?
I notice that you added the word Sunday in parenthesis after the words 'first day of the week', but I see nothing to indicate that Sunday is the first day of the week.
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In Hebrew calendars & traditional Christian calendars, Sunday is literally the "first day" of the week.

According to Jewish tradition, the year 1 of the Jewish calendar was the time of "waste and void" referred to in Genesis 1:1. Nothing was yet created, and only a virtual clock started to tick on the first day of that year, heard, as it were, only by the Creator, on the first day of the week (Sunday) the 24th of Elul, (22 August 3760 B.C. in the Gregorian calendar). He said "Let there be light", and He finished the following Sabbath (Saturday) which is the first day of Tishri, year 2. All Hebrew days begin at sunset (~18:00 hours) which corresponds to hour zero of the Hebrew calendar's day. The first day of the Hebrew calendar is Sunday at 11:20:11 P.M. This would actually be Monday, because the Jewish day is considered to begin at sunset. Since sunset varies, the day is assumed to begin at 6:00 P.M. for calendar calculation purposes. So, the first molad was 5 hours 793 halakim after the start of Tishri 1, 0001 (which was Monday September 7, 3761 B.C. by the Gregorian calendar). Abdicate - Jewish Calendar, Gergorian Calendar, and Julian Calendar Converter

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As said earlier, I don't think it's wrong to worship on Saturday or Sunday. We've done both.
 
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