Know How Long It Takes The Earth To Orbit The Sun? There's A Good Chance You Don't

[Kangaroo Feathers]

The earth circles the sun?
Isn't the earth flat?

Don't be ridiculous. If the Earth were flat, how could it be hollow?

 

[Shad]

You mean the solar system's barycenter? If so, yes it does. And it also orbits the Sun.

Yup. Just having fun with semantics.

 

[Thief]

Well, actually, yes, to keep it in sync with the seasons. If we didn't add that extra day, the calendar would drift with respect to where we are in the orbit and thereby the seasons and the calendar would get out of sync. That was the *original* reason for adding the leap day.

Furthermore, it turns out that adding a day every four years is too much and, again, the calendar will get out of sync with the seasons (although it takes longer to do so). And that is why every 400 years, we drop a leap day.

and you haven't noticed?

when I was a boy....the december winter was deep in snow
a white Christmas

nowadays the winter comes late.....and lingers into the calendar year

 

[The Anointed]

Yeah, well if that i true...why is it not always windy

But the solar system is traveling at 143 miles per second or 514,000 mph so we move 220,077.113 miles in 31,471,027.2 seconds...so therefore...well.... I have no idea what this has to do with leap year or the length of a year...so thats that

Are you now asking how long does it takes for our Solar System to orbit the central core of our Milky Way Galaxy, in other words, what is the duration of a Galactic year? And while you're at it, why not ask if we have Solar System seasons in our orbit around the Black Hole, which is the massive centrally condensed system at the centre, which anchors our Galaxy in space, just as our earth has seasons as it orbits the sun?

 

[Polymath257]

The Earth orbits a baycenter

If you want to get to that level of technicality, then it doesn't orbit

Are you now asking how long does it takes for our Solar System to orbit the central core of our Milky Way Galaxy, in other words, what is the duration of a Galactic year? And while you're at it, why not ask if we have Solar System seasons in our orbit around the Black Hole, which is the massive centrally condensed system at the centre, which anchors our Galaxy in space, just as our earth has seasons as it orbits the sun?

I'm not sure to what extent we can say the central black hole 'anchors' anything. But the period of one revolution of the sun around the galaxy is around a hundred million years. As for seasons, the variance in radiation is minimal over the course of that time, so no seasonality would be observed. Going back to the Miocene would put us in a very different location in the galaxy.

 

[The Anointed]

If you want to get to that level of technicality, then it doesn't orbit
I'm not sure to what extent we can say the central black hole 'anchors' anything. But the period of one revolution of the sun around the galaxy is around a hundred million years. As for seasons, the variance in radiation is minimal over the course of that time, so no seasonality would be observed. Going back to the Miocene would put us in a very different location in the galaxy.

Our Milky Way galaxy is said to be anchored in space by a super Black hole, which has a mass of over three million suns, and around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours.

The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy that orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy. The Super Black Hole at the centre of our being will continue to grow as it devours the other lesser black Holes and dying stars and planets within this galaxy. And yet our galaxy is but one of billions of galaxies that are falling in toward the super gravitational anomaly that is called the ‘Great Attractor’.

It is believed that those galaxies are gathered together by their own gravitational attraction, and will one day become so condensed and concentrated around the Great Attractor, that the elements will become extremely excited, and will burn up, and this particular galactic cluster will become a super massive body of unapproachable light, which will eventually roll up as a scroll with a great hissing noise as it spirals into the centrally condensed system around which it has been gathered, where that energised body will be torn to pieces molecule by molecule, atom by atom, sub-atomic particle by sub-atomic particle, and reconverted into the electromagnetic energy from which they were created and accelerated along the dark worm hole or Einstein Rosen bridge, to speeds far, far in excess of the speed of light, where that liquid like Electromagnetic energy is spewed out in the trillions and trillions of degrees, somewhere far beyond the visible horizon of the boundless cosmos, where, from the cooling quantum of that electromagnetic energy that universe is resurrected, to which the light from its old position in space-time, would take billions upon billions of years to reach its new position.

Source Wiki.

The Great Attractor: what is this thing?

The smallest unit of galaxies out there is our local group, comprising the Milky Way, the Andromeda galaxy and about 50 others. The Local Group is in turn part of the Virgo Supercluster containing some 40,000 members. Beyond all this is an unseen object called the Great Attractor which is pulling the Milky Way and all else towards it at the terrific speed of 14 million mph. What is this thing, how far away is it, and what will happen when we reach it? No one knows.

Detailed observations of the galaxies around us indicate that there is superposed on the Hubble flow a large-scale streaming motion of about 600 km/s in the general direction of the constellation Centaurus.

This mass migration includes the Local Group, the Virgo Cluster, the Hydra--Centaurus Supercluster, and other groups and clusters for a distance of at least 60 Mpc up and downstream from us. It is as if a great river of galaxies (including our own) is flowing with a swift current of 600 km/s toward Centaurus.

Calculations indicate that ~1016 solar masses concentrated 65 Mpc away in the direction of Centaurus would account for this. This mass concentration has been dubbed the Great Attractor. Detailed investigation of that region of the galaxy cluster Abell 3627) finds 10 times too little visible matter to account for this flow, again implying a dominant gravitational role for unseen or dark matter. Thus, the Great Attractor is certainly there (because we see its gravitational influence), but the major portion of the mass that must be there cannot be seen in our telescopes.

Enoch, the only man recorded in the Scriptures to have been carried to the throne of the Most High in the creation, and who was anointed as his successor, was then escorted to the ends of time, where he witnessed the universe burn up and fall as massive columns of fire, beyond all measure in height and depth into the GREAT ABYSS, which is described by Enoch, as the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven, beyond which, there was nothing, not even the space in which the universe had existed.

In 1935, Einstein and physicist Nathan Rosen used the theory of general relativity to elaborate on the idea of black holes and worm holes, proposing the existence of "bridges" through space-time. These bridges connect two different points in space-time, theoretically creating a shortcut that could reduce travel time and distance; Billions of light years to mere metres.

According to general relativity, the gravitational collapse of a sufficiently compact mass forms a singular Schwarzschild black hole. In the Einstein–Cartan–Sciama–Kibble theory of gravity, however, it forms a regular Einstein–Rosen bridge.

The gravitational collapse of a single star such as the star of our solar system, can form a White Dwarf, the gravitational collapse of bigger stars can create a neutron star, or a Black Hole, depending on its mass, but not necessarily a Worm Hole.

A worm Hole could theoretically be used as a method of sending information or travelers through space unfortunately, physical matter which includes humans journeying through the space tunnels would appear to be an impossibility as there are strong indications that material objects travelling through a worm hole is forbidden by the law of physics.

But now that it has been discovered that Physical matter is but an illusion, and all is, but the eternal energy, perhaps one day new technology may develop a way to teleport bodies of energy along light beams and reconstruct them to their original form, with no damage done. See Link below.

Nothing Is Solid & Everything Is Energy – Scientists Explain The World of Quantum Physics*

Wormholes may not only connect two separate regions within the universe, they could also connect two different universes.

 

[Wu Wei]

Are you now asking how long does it takes for our Solar System to orbit the central core of our Milky Way Galaxy, in other words, what is the duration of a Galactic year? And while you're at it, why not ask if we have Solar System seasons in our orbit around the Black Hole, which is the massive centrally condensed system at the centre, which anchors our Galaxy in space, just as our earth has seasons as it orbits the sun?

Nope, not asking that. just wondering, given the various speeds involved, rotation, orbit, galactic, universe.....how fast is a person standing on the earth actually moving. Absolutely nothing to do with seasons or orbit around core.

As we sit, or stand here on the earth, we appear to not be moving. But the earth rotates on its axis at about 1000mph, the earth orbits the sun at about 70,000mph and the solar system is moving at about 514,000mph and the galaxy is moving as well.....how fast is a person standing still on the planet earth actually moving with all this taken into consideration

 

[Polymath257]

Our Milky Way galaxy is said to be anchored in space by a super Black hole, which has a mass of over three million suns, and around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours.

My only quibble was with the verb 'anchor'. It suggests that it holds us in place and we can't move because of it. That is false. The black hole moves along with our galaxy.

The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy that orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy. The Super Black Hole at the centre of our being will continue to grow as it devours the other lesser black Holes and dying stars and planets within this galaxy. And yet our galaxy is but one of billions of galaxies that are falling in toward the super gravitational anomaly that is called the ‘Great Attractor’.

This is basically correct, with slight quibbles. Other galaxies (like the Andromeda Spiral) have supermassive black holes also. In fact, it appears that most galaxies have one. Also, the central black hole doesn't necessarily devour everything. Things can, and do, orbit black holes without being devoured.

It is believed that those galaxies are gathered together by their own gravitational attraction, and will one day become so condensed and concentrated around the Great Attractor, that the elements will become extremely excited, and will burn up, and this particular galactic cluster will become a super massive body of unapproachable light, which will eventually roll up as a scroll with a great hissing noise as it spirals into the centrally condensed system around which it has been gathered, where that energised body will be torn to pieces molecule by molecule, atom by atom, sub-atomic particle by sub-atomic particle, and reconverted into the electromagnetic energy from which they were created and accelerated along the dark worm hole or Einstein Rosen bridge, to speeds far, far in excess of the speed of light, where that liquid like Electromagnetic energy is spewed out in the trillions and trillions of degrees, somewhere far beyond the visible horizon of the boundless cosmos, where, from the cooling quantum of that electromagnetic energy that universe is resurrected, to which the light from its old position in space-time, would take billions upon billions of years to reach its new position.

This is an exaggeration. Especially the hissing sound (!?!). Our galaxy will almost certain merge with others, creating a giant elliptical galaxy. We see such and they are truly massive galaxies.

The Great Attractor: what is this thing?

The smallest unit of galaxies out there is our local group, comprising the Milky Way, the Andromeda galaxy and about 50 others. The Local Group is in turn part of the Virgo Supercluster containing some 40,000 members. Beyond all this is an unseen object called the Great Attractor which is pulling the Milky Way and all else towards it at the terrific speed of 14 million mph. What is this thing, how far away is it, and what will happen when we reach it? No one knows.

Detailed observations of the galaxies around us indicate that there is superposed on the Hubble flow a large-scale streaming motion of about 600 km/s in the general direction of the constellation Centaurus.

This mass migration includes the Local Group, the Virgo Cluster, the Hydra--Centaurus Supercluster, and other groups and clusters for a distance of at least 60 Mpc up and downstream from us. It is as if a great river of galaxies (including our own) is flowing with a swift current of 600 km/s toward Centaurus.

Calculations indicate that ~1016 solar masses concentrated 65 Mpc away in the direction of Centaurus would account for this. This mass concentration has been dubbed the Great Attractor. Detailed investigation of that region of the galaxy cluster Abell 3627) finds 10 times too little visible matter to account for this flow, again implying a dominant gravitational role for unseen or dark matter. Thus, the Great Attractor is certainly there (because we see its gravitational influence), but the major portion of the mass that must be there cannot be seen in our telescopes.

This is mostly correct. Recall, though, that 60Mpc, while large, is still small on cosmic scales. Most of the universe is NOT moving towards the GA. This is a local flow.

Enoch, the only man recorded in the Scriptures to have been carried to the throne of the Most High in the creation, and who was anointed as his successor, was then escorted to the ends of time, where he witnessed the universe burn up and fall as massive columns of fire, beyond all measure in height and depth into the GREAT ABYSS, which is described by Enoch, as the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven, beyond which, there was nothing, not even the space in which the universe had existed.

The relevance of an old myth to modern science escapes me.

In 1935, Einstein and physicist Nathan Rosen used the theory of general relativity to elaborate on the idea of black holes and worm holes, proposing the existence of "bridges" through space-time. These bridges connect two different points in space-time, theoretically creating a shortcut that could reduce travel time and distance; Billions of light years to mere metres.

According to general relativity, the gravitational collapse of a sufficiently compact mass forms a singular Schwarzschild black hole. In the Einstein–Cartan–Sciama–Kibble theory of gravity, however, it forms a regular Einstein–Rosen bridge.

The gravitational collapse of a single star such as the star of our solar system, can form a White Dwarf, the gravitational collapse of bigger stars can create a neutron star, or a Black Hole, depending on its mass, but not necessarily a Worm Hole.

A worm Hole could theoretically be used as a method of sending information or travelers through space unfortunately, physical matter which includes humans journeying through the space tunnels would appear to be an impossibility as there are strong indications that material objects travelling through a worm hole is forbidden by the law of physics.

But now that it has been discovered that Physical matter is but an illusion, and all is, but the eternal energy, perhaps one day new technology may develop a way to teleport bodies of energy along light beams and reconstruct them to their original form, with no damage done. See Link below.

Nothing Is Solid & Everything Is Energy – Scientists Explain The World of Quantum Physics*

Wormholes may not only connect two separate regions within the universe, they could also connect two different universes.

I'd point out that worm holes are, at this point, purely theoretical. There are dynamical difficulties in producing the 'worm'.

Oh, and why do you conclude that physical matter is an illusion?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Nope, not asking that. just wondering, given the various speeds involved, rotation, orbit, galactic, universe.....how fast is a person standing on the earth actually moving. Absolutely nothing to do with seasons or orbit around core.

As we sit, or stand here on the earth, we appear to not be moving. But the earth rotates on its axis at about 1000mph, the earth orbits the sun at about 70,000mph and the solar system is moving at about 514,000mph and the galaxy is moving as well.....how fast is a person standing still on the planet earth actually moving with all this taken into consideration

All movement is relative, so the question is meaningless without reference to a specific point. Also, given the amount of orbits and rotations involved, the number will increase and decrease at different times, depending on the direction you're moving compared to your reference point.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

This is basically correct, with slight quibbles. Other galaxies (like the Andromeda Spiral) have supermassive black holes also. In fact, it appears that most galaxies have one. Also, the central black hole doesn't necessarily devour everything. Things can, and do, orbit black holes without being devoured.

The popular idea of a black hole "sucking" everything in like a plug hole persists. The best way of explaining it I've yet found is to explain that if the Sun were to become a black hole right now, it wouldn't effect our orbit at all.

 

[Polymath257]

The popular idea of a black hole "sucking" everything in like a plug hole persists. The best way of explaining it I've yet found is to explain that if the Sun were to become a black hole right now, it wouldn't effect our orbit at all.

Exactly. Of course, it would be under 2 miles across and give out no light, but the orbit wouldn't be affected.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Exactly. Of course, it would be under 2 miles across and give out no light, but the orbit wouldn't be affected.

And the Sun is of insufficient size to become a black hole... but for explanation purposes it helps.

 

[Stevicus]

This actually got me thinking, but no longer have the math chops to figure it out, assuming I ever did in the first place.
Give the speed of the rotation of the earth on its axis and the speed of Earth orbit around the sun and the speed of the galaxy around the universe combined with the speed of the galaxy itself....It makes me wonder....What is the average air speed velocity of a laden swallow? ....just kidding, could not resist that one....... but seriously, It does make me wonder what is the maxim speed a person, standing on earth surface is moving relative to all of this.

What do you mean - an African or a European swallow?

And does this affect the price of tea in China?

 

[Wu Wei]

All movement is relative, so the question is meaningless without reference to a specific point. Also, given the amount of orbits and rotations involved, the number will increase and decrease at different times, depending on the direction you're moving compared to your reference point.

I understand that the numbers would increases and decrease since the earth can be moving towards and away, only talking about when moving towards. I am wondering about the maximum.

Speed is the distance traveled per unit of time. You start at point 'A', where the earth is and go to point 'B' where it went

Speed = distance/time

I do realize that measuring that distance, due to all the factor involved, could be nigh impossible. IT certainly is impossible for me since has been over 30 years since my last calculus and physic courses

 

[Wu Wei]

What do you mean - an African or a European swallow?

And does this affect the price of tea in China?

African or a European swallow?...I don't know that...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

and yes it does affect the price of tea in China, the question is does the price go up...or go down...which is hard to figure out because we can't see the forest through the trees

 

[Stevicus]

African or a European swallow?...I don't know that...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

and yes it does affect the price of tea in China, the question is does the price go up...or go down...which is hard to figure out because we can't see the forest through the trees

And speaking of trees, if a bear poops in the woods and there's no one around to hear it, does it affect the speed at which the Earth orbits around the sun?

 

[Wu Wei]

And speaking of trees, if a bear poops in the woods and there's no one around to hear it, does it affect the speed at which the Earth orbits around the sun?

To make a long story short, it could if you're beating around the bush while trying to teach an old dog new tricks