Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges

[Quagmire]

Agreed. I don't know how juries work in the U.S., though, so I have no idea how much impact one or two people out of 12 could have on the verdict (assuming only one or two intend to be fair).

And bare in mind that the defence and the prosecution have equal say when it comes to picking the jurors, and politics aside the prosecution's intention is always to win.

 

[metis]

In my opinion, guns can make us safer, and for many individuals, guns do indeed make them safer.

They can, but overall they don't as so many independent studies have concluded, including from the FBI.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

He needs an explanation of just what an "assault rifle" is.
After all, we can't expect Brits to be knowledgeable about guns.
They do know their cheeses though.

Brits have been around guns as long as most countries.
We do not necessarily classify them the same as Americans.

The law comes into it rather a lot.

 

[Mister Emu]

The Wisconsin that let Kyle Rittenhouse off scot-free is also the Wisconsin that's trying to convict Chrystul Kizer of first-degree murder for killing her rapist and trafficker.

This doesn't say what you apparently think it does. You do know Rittenhouse had to go through his trial just the same, the state of Wisconsin did not let him off, and this young woman has not seen her day in court yet, correct? Seems like Wisconsin may have a problem with aggressive prosecutions.

 

[Kooky]

Not *any* idiot. Only white right wing idiots.

The Wisconsin that let Kyle Rittenhouse off scot-free is also the Wisconsin that's trying to convict Chrystul Kizer of first-degree murder for killing her rapist and trafficker.

Chrystul Kizer, sex trafficking victim accused of killing alleged abuser, wins appeal

I am sure she really was a remorseless killer when the jury comes to its inevitable conclusion, after all trials only ever arrive at the unvarnished truth, unless of course it results in OJ going free.

 

[oldbadger]

As long as they go through a NRA safety course and are supervised by an adult when using it works for me.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse supervised?
NRA safety courses?

 

[Estro Felino]

I am sure she really was a remorseless killer when the jury comes to its inevitable conclusion, after all trials only ever arrive at the unvarnished truth, unless of course it results in OJ going free.

But in the OJ case we have no footage that shows how the two victims were killed

 

[Aštra’el]

Just another reason why this country is trash

The United States of America is awesome and I absolutely love it here.

 

[Kooky]

But in the OJ case we have not the footage that shows how the two victims were killed

And yet I am being attacked when I call Rittenhouse a "killer", even though we have footage that shows him killing two people.

 

[esmith]

Was Kyle Rittenhouse supervised?
NRA safety courses?

Those were my State regulations I don't know what Wisconsin's are, do you?

 

[esmith]

And yet I am being attacked when I call Rittenhouse a "killer", even though we have footage that shows him killing two people.

Yes, he killed two people but he did not murder them.....big difference there.
However, if you are biased aganist the person, which it appears your are, you can use the term "killer".
However, by doing so all you are doing is showing animosity toward Rittenhouse and those that want to accept the jury's decision.
Either that or your just trying to"stir-the-pot"

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yes, he killed two people but he did not murder them.....big difference there.
However, if you are biased aganist the person, which it appears your are, you can use the term "killer".

Being accurate is "biased"? Interesting.

However, by doing so all you are doing is showing animosity toward Rittenhouse and those that want to accept the jury's decision.
Either that or your just trying to"stir-the-pot"

The jury's decision was "not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." It wasn't "innocent."

 

[oldbadger]

Those were my State regulations I don't know what Wisconsin's are, do you?

Dunnow friend.....
As long as your babies can't buy a beer they can take them warrior guns out just fine.
....all makes so much sense to us furriners.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I suspect that this kid will pay for his choices for a long time and in many ways. There is a lot of anger that this kid was acquitted, and not just on the streets. Representative Nadler has already asked the DOJ to investigate regarding federal charges.

Then look for civil cases to be filed against him as well. This may resemble the OJ Simpson thing.

But the longest lasting consequence is that this kid, though lionized by many (Republican congresspersons are falling over themselves to give this guy a congressional intern position), he will also be recognized and despised almost everywhere he goes in the country if not much of the world, and likely for decades.

I understand he wants to go to nursing school. Good luck with that. His presence in a nursing program would be disruptive, and he would be marginalized and demonized by many students. This kid doesn't look emotionally capable of facing this future without buckling under to continual rejection. He seems to be at high risk of experiencing PTSD, bitterness, and depression. I doubt that he could graduate under those circumstances, and he would probably have a tough time finding a job in nursing, as his presence in any capacity involving the public would also be disruptive, he might run business away, not to mention how much of the staff would view and treat him.

 

[Revoltingest]

I suspect that this kid will pay for his choices for a long time and in many ways. There is a lot of anger that this kid was acquitted, and not just on the streets. Representative Nadler has already asked the DOJ to investigate regarding federal charges.

That's how government defeats the double jeopardy clause.
The Constitution is so inconvenient at times, eh.

Then look for civil cases to be filed against him as well. This may resemble the OJ Simpson thing.

I predicted the same.

But the longest lasting consequence is that this kid, though lionized by many (Republican congresspersons are falling over themselves to give this guy a congressional intern position), he will also be recognized and despised almost everywhere he goes in the country if not much of the world, and likely for decades.

I understand he wants to go to nursing school. Good luck with that. His presence in a nursing program would be disruptive, and he would be marginalized and demonized by many students. This kid doesn't look emotionally capable of facing this future without buckling under to continual rejection. He seems to be at high risk of experiencing PTSD, bitterness, and depression. I doubt that he could graduate under those circumstances, and he would probably have a tough time finding a job in nursing, as his presence in any capacity involving the public would also be disruptive, he might run business away, not to mention how much of the staff would view and treat him.

The public will forget.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Kyle Rittenhouse showed himself to be a pathetically irresponsible adolescent fool. Sadly, that is not, in and of itself, illegal.

The real travesty of justice was committed, not by Rittenhouse and certainly not by the jury, but by a State electorate that enabled and endorsed an open-carry invitation to vigilantism.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

That's how government defeats the double jeopardy clause.

I doubt that the feds would prosecute him for the same crimes that he was just tried for, which were all state level crimes. If so, double jeopardy isn't an issue.

The public will forget.

You think so? All it takes is for one person wherever he goes to remember that now iconic face and ask, "Isn't that that kid form Kenosha over there that killed all those people and walked?"

Do you recall the story of former army captain and physician Jeffrey McDonald, who was accused of murdering his wife and two children at Ft. Bragg in the early seventies? I became an intern in the summer of 1981, where he was working as an ER doctor. I hadn't heard of him, but within the first week, somebody pointed him out and told me the story. He had been convicted of the triple murder, but released on appeal on a technicality, and the book (and later movie) Fatal Vision about the crime and trial was written. This is how we all saw this guy - a killer that got away with it (the forensic evidence was pretty compelling, since remarkably, all four members of that family had different blood types).

In any event, McDonald was viewed suspiciously and disapprovingly by much of the hospital staff, but apparently not the hospital management, as they had hired him. He eventually did return to prison, but I suspect that were he a free man today, that story and stigma would follow him. I see the same for this kid. Why would it be any different? Suppose my hospital gave him a nursing job. It would be the same experience for him as it was for McDonald.

I predict that nobody will let him forget.

Some of the Capitol insurrectionists are complaining about being social pariahs wherever they go even if some people around them see them as heroes. They are essentially unhireable according to their own reports. Their legal troubles were nothing compared to what followed.

 

[Estro Felino]

And yet I am being attacked when I call Rittenhouse a "killer", even though we have footage that shows him killing two people.

He did kill.
But could you please tell me the legal requirements that make the right of self defense applicable?
Thank you

 

[Revoltingest]

I doubt that the feds would prosecute him for the same crimes that he was just tried for, which were all state level crimes. If so, double jeopardy isn't an issue.

Aye, that's how they get around double jeopardy.

You think so? All it takes is for one person wherever he goes to remember that now iconic face and ask, "Isn't that that kid form Kenosha over there that killed all those people and walked?"

The frequency of that will decrease over time.

Do you recall the story of former army captain and physician Jeffrey McDonald, who was accused of murdering his wife and two children at Ft. Bragg in the early seventies? I became an intern in the summer of 1981, where he was working as an ER doctor. I hadn't heard of him, but within the first week, somebody pointed him out and told me the story. He had been convicted of the triple murder, but released on appeal on a technicality, and the book (and later movie) Fatal Vision about the crime and trial was written. This is how we all saw this guy - a killer that got away with it (the forensic evidence was pretty compelling, since remarkably, all four members of that family had different blood types).

In any event, McDonald was viewed suspiciously and disapprovingly by much of the hospital staff, but apparently not the hospital management, as they had hired him. He eventually did return to prison, but I suspect that were he a free man today, that story and stigma would follow him. I see the same for this kid. Why would it be any different? Suppose my hospital gave him a nursing job. It would be the same experience for him as it was for McDonald.

I predict that nobody will let him forget.

Some of the Capitol insurrectionists are complaining about being social pariahs wherever they go even if some people around them see them as heroes. They are essentially unhireable according to their own reports. Their legal troubles were nothing compared to what followed.

If problems continued, a name change would be useful.
Also, he could move to an area with more sympathy.

 

[Aštra’el]

But the longest lasting consequence is that this kid, though lionized by many (Republican congresspersons are falling over themselves to give this guy a congressional intern position), he will also be recognized and despised almost everywhere he goes in the country if not much of the world, and likely for decades.

It is obvious that this what some desperately want to believe, but it is simply not the case.

The vast majority of US cities are not as mindlessly braindead as places like Portland, Oregon. Kyle will be welcome in plenty of communities, most people won’t concern themselves about his past as they’ll have their own issues to worry about, plenty of people will honor the fact that he was found innocent of all charges, and others won’t even know who he is or won’t even care.

The few who do hate him? Their irrational hatred of him will fade in time. Sooner or later, another straight White male, and/ or Conservative, will take the stage front and center who becomes the new and latest boogeyman of the perpetually offended for them to scream and cry about in their left wing echo chambers. That cycle will never end for these people because they bring this Hell upon themselves. Their cognitive dissonance, their hypocrisy, their lack of discipline over their emotions, and the manner in which they are so easily manipulated by their favorite media and politicians... will not as easily fade away.