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Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Unfortunately that is currently legal here. If a person could not take a weapon to a riot things could have been different. But then rioters with weapons could have been charged as well.
Yes, I know such laws exist, but he still had the responsibility for what he did and does. He didn't, it seems to me, have the maturity to deal with the situations he might have encountered.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
It portends that anyone who wants can carry around semi automatic weapons at any public gathering and be able to decide what constitutes danger and when it is reasonable to use deadly force with zero training unlike police who have many hundreds of hours of training and still can't get it right some times. It means don't go to demonstrations in states where any idiot can walk around in public waving an AR-15, kill two people and walk off scott free. No gun control anywhere, anytime for any reason. That's the new Merica.
No this verdict did no portend anything other than a jury found that the prosecution did not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not act in self-defense.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Imagine......... An Assault Rifle could be the (US) Christmas present, this year, for those children who don't already have one.
As long as they go through a NRA safety course and are supervised by an adult when using it works for me.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
As long as they go through a NRA safety course and are supervised by an adult when using it works for me.
He needs an explanation of just what an "assault rifle" is.
After all, we can't expect Brits to be knowledgeable about guns.
They do know their cheeses though.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nothing at all I guess

I'm not so sure about that. There are several clues about where America is heading in the news. There has been an insurrection that much of the nation wants overlooked. There has been a vigorous anti-science response to vaccination. There is a concerted effort to contract voting rights. There is a strong effort to end abortion rights. A severely flawed man is the hero of almost half a nation, and convinced them that their elections are dishonest. Biden's ratings are falling despite multiple first year achievements of benefit to millions of people. And now a kid and a nation have been told that what he did is OK.

Are these not predicters of America's trajectory into the future? They are for me.

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1461763097257988106
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
If your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. Kyle wasn't an active shooter, and he knew that because he was running with him/behind him. He interviewed him, he wasn't shooting into the crowd. Kyle only shot those who were intent on murdering him. That's what self defense law protects, that's why he was acquitted.

If I drew my gun on a person who was retreating and killed them, I would be rightly charged with and convicted of murder, regardless of what I thought about the status of the legality of their other shootings. If I drew my gun on someone who was in the midst of being attacked by a mob and they were armed I would have every expectation of being shot.
Rittenhouse wasn't retreating when Grosskreutz levelled his pistol at him.

Gaige Grosskreutz, 27, testified that he unholstered his handgun on August 25, 2020, as he and a crowd followed Rittenhouse, who had just fatally shot another man. Rittenhouse fell to the ground, fired twice at an unknown person and then fatally shot Anthony Huber.

Grosskreutz, just feet away, put his hands in the air, videos show. He then saw Rittenhouse rerack his weapon -- a motion that loads it for gunfire, he testified.

"Reracking the weapon in my mind meant that the defendant pulled the trigger while my hands were in the air, but the gun didn't fire, so by reracking the weapon I inferred the defendant wasn't accepting my surrender," he testified.
Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Armed paramedic who was shot testifies he thought teen was an active shooter - CNN
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I figure that's the intended effect of this ruling, yea.
So you're saying that the judge and all 12 jurors had the same intention.

It would be quite a trick to set something like that up.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
No this verdict did no portend anything other than a jury found that the prosecution did not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not act in self-defense.
I think it also shows the need for vetting jurors as to their intelligence levels and their ability for impartiality to politics.

The videos spoke for all to see. The idiot did not need to commit murder nor bring a gun to a fist fight. He instigated the entire episode himself and should have been held to some level of responsibility in what he ultimately created.

And what is the message the verdict gives? Anyone who carries a gun to a public demonstration, points that gun at people and the people react by chasing the perp down, can then shoot those people in cold blood for any reason at all.

Did those idiot jurors believe that ridiculous crying act Rittenhouse put on about how scared he was? He should have been scared for pointing guns at people and having them react. He certainly should have run. He certainly should not have shot them.
 
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