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Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges

Suave

Simulated character
There was some thinking that Kyle would at least be found guilty of this until the judge dropped the charge.
I expected that to happen due to Wisconsin's vaguely written law prohibiting minors from possessing a "dangerous" weapon.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Does this case differ substantially from the Arbery case? Once again, white vigilantes grabbed their guns to play cop, and ended up feeling threatened, then killed. If Rittenhouse is not guilty, are these people guilty? Will it make sense to convict them? If so, does it make sense to exonerate Rittenhouse?

I haven't read much about the Arbery case, but to my knowledge one difference would be: they approached the guy but Kyle was running away in all instances. Wouldn't that change something if that's true?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Well, if the goal of the US government was to increase gun ownership and mobilization among civil rights groups, they have sure done it.
I'm not sure how much it changes on that point.

To be found not guilty at trial, you'd still have to be avoid being killed by a cop or one of Rittenhouse's friends.

A "good guy with a gun" has no legal protection if he's going up against someone fighting against the cause of civil rights. Gaige Grosskreutz found that out today.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I am an impartial jurist.
I would have defended Rittenhouse even if he had been one of the protesters.
To me only the evidence (videos and audios) matters.

I hope politicians leave this boy alone.
The crux was weither he was looking for trouble or just happened on trouble.

The jury made its decision so we must accept it.

Either way this matter is settled.

Now the question of civil action arises.....
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Please rest assured, most anybody agrees a 17 year old adolescent should not be armed in public with an AR-15, I'm confident Kyle Rittenhouse's case will prompt state legislators to enact well written laws prohibited minors from possessing semi-auto rifles.
Only in certain States
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I cannot pretend to understand the verdicts, frankly, as I was utterly convinced I saw evidence to support guilt. However, I believe firmly in the system (our Canadian system is very similar to the US), and thus accept the verdicts, whether I understand them or not.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's insane.

A 17 year old took a rifle out to an event and killed people with no consequences and America wonders why it has so many mass-shooting problems.
We can't say "no consequences".
He was tried in criminal court.
And civil court awaits.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I haven't read much about the Arbery case, but to my knowledge one difference would be: they approached the guy but Kyle was running away in all instances. Wouldn't that change something if that's true?
This deatail changes everything.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I'm confident Kyle Rittenhouse's case will prompt state legislators to enact well written laws prohibited minors from possessing semi-auto rifles.

"Wisconsin generally prohibits the intentional transfer of any firearm to an individual under age 18.

The state also generally prohibits the possession of a firearm by any person under age 18.

These restrictions do not apply, however, when the firearm is being used by a person under age 18 when supervised by an adult during target practice or a course of instruction."

But it's already illegal. Regardless of the homicide verdict.

Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess in Wisconsin | Giffords
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I cannot pretend to understand the verdicts, frankly, as I was utterly convinced I saw evidence to support guilt. However, I believe firmly in the system (our Canadian system is very similar to the US), and thus accept the verdicts, whether I understand them or not.
Consider that he wasn't guilty under the law
because he was defending himself. But we
may still consider him culpable because he
showed incredibly bad & dangerous judgment.l

I see potential for regulation to deal with such
situations, without running afoul of the 2nd A.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The shot that killed Joseph Rosenbaum was in his back.

What does that detail change?

I have seen the footage many times and saved several frames.
Rosenbaum chases Rittenhouse with inhumane rage. That detail is scarier than a horror movie.

In a penal court, only the evidence matters.
 

Suave

Simulated character
"Wisconsin generally prohibits the intentional transfer of any firearm to an individual under age 18.

The state also generally prohibits the possession of a firearm by any person under age 18.

These restrictions do not apply, however, when the firearm is being used by a person under age 18 when supervised by an adult during target practice or a course of instruction."

But it's already illegal. Regardless of the homicide verdict.

Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess in Wisconsin | Giffords

Wisconsin law prohibits anyone under age 18 from being armed, but Rittenhouse’s attorneys successfully argued that state laws only forbid minors to carry short-barreled rifles and shotguns.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Most anybody could agree semi-auto rifle magazine clips should be limited to six rounds, this in order to reduce mass shootings. Please let us urge our Congress to place a hefty tax and national registry on private owners of high capacity semi-auto rifle magazines holding more than six rounds of ammo.
Excuse me; the AR15 has a magazine the M1 uses a clip.
Proof-read your writings,inaccuracies (especially when it comes to firearms) will cast you as a know-nothing.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
That the American justic system works.
For over 30 hours the jury looked at the evidence and found him to be not guilty.
I would say that they did their job to the best of their ability.

It's the end times for sure because I agree with you.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This is the impartiality you speak of?
Not that I expected a more neutral analysis of someone who's openly sympathized with Mussolini on this forum.

I am the same person who sided with the accuse against Chauvin.
Because I watched the evidence.
 
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