Lab-grown meat -- how will that affect you personally?

[Yerda]

Been veggie for 20 years and I'm looking forward to a real beef burger again one day.

 

[FredVB]

I know there are people who would have it. It will not affect me at all. I have many reasons to just eat foods from plants and I seek to have all whole foods from plants. I am not going to have what is grown in a lab just to have meat, which would be ignoring the reasons I have.

 

[Secret Chief]

The cake is a lie.

Welcome to my ignore list!

 

[Secret Chief]

But is the enjoyment of the taste of meat still objectionable to some, despite the fact that animals are not being killed in order to have meat on one's dinner table?

Enjoyment or non-enjoyment is of course all in the mind (as opposed to the nose/mouth), so after 40 years of finding it repulsive I'm not about to change my mind.
Aside from that, one cannot necessarily trust the meat on your plate is the kind you think it is, whether accidentally or on purpose. I know this from eating out and being served dishes that contain ingredients (not meat) that I would not want or expect in the meal.
When McD introduced plant burgers in the UK several stores ran out and served customers meat burgers instead.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Enjoyment or non-enjoyment is of course all in the mind, so after 40 years of finding it repulsive I'm not about to change my mind.
Aside from that, one cannot necessarily trust the meat on your plate is the kind you think it is, whether accidentally or on purpose. I know this from eating out and being served dishes that contain ingredients (not meat) that I would not want or expect in the meal.
When McD introduced plant burgers in the UK several stores ran out and served customers meat burgers instead.

I hope that no one is asking you to change your mind. And of course what those shops did was very wrong. I won't trick a vegan or vegetarian into eating meat. I have a Seventh Day Adventist brother and for Thanksgiving I cook the turkey, they are mostly vegetarian, They will eat fish or poultry very rarely. At any rate our mother used to do that and once listening to a radio show that was for foodies they did a taste test of various cornbreads. One that did surprisingly well was Jiffy Cornbread. When one asked why such an inexpensive brand tasted better the host said "That would be the lard" in a very matter of fact voice. Well that was an ingredient in my mother's turkey stuffing. That immediately was out. My mother of course would not have fed them lard knowingly either. It only goes to show that if one wants to limit ones diet one has to read the ingredients list of every item that one buys. Odds are if one does not do so there will be something in it that is unwanted.

 

[Brickjectivity]

This:

However, current techniques for lab-based meat production are still lacking and it is very challenging in meeting the criteria for meat analogues (Rout Srutee, 2021). Some studies do report that the production process and ingredients of certain lab-based meat are nutritionally lacking and do not mimic the consistency or exact taste of real meat (Ismail et al., 2020; Golkar-Narenji et al., 2022).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666765722001508

There may be some vitamins, minerals and other nutritionally relevant components that are present in meat that may not be present in cultured meat. Examples included vitamin B1277, creatin(footnote 4), carnosine, vitamin D3, and iron(footnote 5), which are not created in muscle cells but are transported to the cells from elsewhere in the body or from the diet(footnote 6)(footnote 7).

Identification of hazards in meat products manufactured from cultured animal cells: Hazards

Nutritional hazards and contamination from components used in cell culturing.

www.food.gov.uk

May also affect pet food The Nutritional Challenges of Cell-Cultured Meat for Pet Food

Its a tangent, but I believe we should genetically tweak meat culture to make vitamins. I already pay top dollar to get omega 3 and DHA that doesn't contain mercury or weird plastics or heavy metals. It would be terrific if I didn't have to do that; and wild meat sources like fish are becoming toxic. You can't eat any fish. You need farm raised catfish or fish that are definitely from clean waters that don't eat deep water creatures, because deep water creatures contain heavy metals. Those heavy metals become part of the diet of creatures further up in the ocean and get concentrated into the meat in unhealthy levels for people to eat. Then there is the original problem that almost no foods contain enough of every vitamin; and to get your vitamins you must learn a variety of cooking and food prep methods and import foods from around the world. That also carries risks.

 

[Heyo]

Its a tangent, but I believe we should genetically tweak meat culture to make vitamins. I already pay top dollar to get omega 3 and DHA that doesn't contain mercury or weird plastics or heavy metals.

As a tangent: look for omega3 eggs. There are chicken breeds who's eggs contain 5 times the amount of omega3 than usual eggs.

 

[Secret Chief]

I hope that no one is asking you to change your mind. And of course what those shops did was very wrong. I won't trick a vegan or vegetarian into eating meat. I have a Seventh Day Adventist brother and for Thanksgiving I cook the turkey, they are mostly vegetarian, They will eat fish or poultry very rarely. At any rate our mother used to do that and once listening to a radio show that was for foodies they did a taste test of various cornbreads. One that did surprisingly well was Jiffy Cornbread. When one asked why such an inexpensive brand tasted better the host said "That would be the lard" in a very matter of fact voice. Well that was an ingredient in my mother's turkey stuffing. That immediately was out. My mother of course would not have fed them lard knowingly either. It only goes to show that if one wants to limit ones diet one has to read the ingredients list of every item that one buys. Odds are if one does not do so there will be something in it that is unwanted.

Yes, any new product we might consider buying gets a thorough ingredients check, unless the words vegetarian, vegan or plant based are on the packaging. The issue might really only arise on eating out. It's not just weirdo preferences either. My other half is (very) allergic to both avocado and pomegranate and she always mentions it to staff because they can pop up in the weirdest of places! I have noticed restaurants and cafes are more and more asking on arrival if there are any allergies or dietary preferences in the party. And just last week at a Mexican restaurant we were given, without requesting, an (extensive) separate vegan menu.

 

[VoidCat]

I wonder if it be possible to grow the meat without the alpha gal protein that some folk are allergic to

 

[VoidCat]

This was in my biology homework:

 

[Subduction Zone]

This was in my biology homework:

Green meat! But not in a bad way.

 

[VoidCat]

lol my biology homework presented this question after talking about lab grown meat:
Now what about "fake" meat? Check out this bacon made from mushroom mycelium (opens in new window): https://www.atlastfood.co/method

Which would you be more likely to eat--meat (muscle tissue) grown in a lab, or mushroom product that disguises itself as meat?

Hard question. I'd try both of them. So how bout this...put my mushroom bacon on the labgrown burger. Problem solved.

 

[Subduction Zone]

lol my biology homework presented this question after talking about lab grown meat:
Now what about "fake" meat? Check out this bacon made from mushroom mycelium (opens in new window): https://www.atlastfood.co/method

Which would you be more likely to eat--meat (muscle tissue) grown in a lab, or mushroom product that disguises itself as meat?

Hard question. I'd try both of them. So how bout this...put my mushroom bacon on the labgrown burger. Problem solved.

Lab grown meat takes almost all of the ethics out of the problem so my answer would have been simple: Whichever one that I thought tasted better would be my choice.

 

[Yerda]

lol my biology homework presented this question after talking about lab grown meat:
Now what about "fake" meat? Check out this bacon made from mushroom mycelium (opens in new window): https://www.atlastfood.co/method

Which would you be more likely to eat--meat (muscle tissue) grown in a lab, or mushroom product that disguises itself as meat?

Hard question. I'd try both of them. So how bout this...put my mushroom bacon on the labgrown burger. Problem solved.

I've tried a lot of fake bacon - some of it is edible. But my soul longs for the day bacon grows on trees (or petri dishes) instead of pigs.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

What is being done to avoid human overpopulation?

I think the answer is to introduce human into that population. They've always been the most effective predator for that particular species.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

It only goes to show that if one wants to limit ones diet one has to read the ingredients list of every item that one buys. Odds are if one does not do so there will be something in it that is unwanted.

Yes...but tech can help
There are aps to scan an ingredient list for you and check it's vegan friendly, for example.

It takes the effort out of deciphering 'hidden' ingredients that are identified by non common names.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Lab grown meat takes almost all of the ethics out of the problem so my answer would have been simple: Whichever one that I thought tasted better would be my choice.

Worth factoring in health factors.

 

[Yerda]

There will always be a need for hunting(killing for meat)to avoid over population. Deer hunters kill around 6 million+ white-tailed deer yearly.
Imagine 5 years with no hunting. That would be 30 million more deer, (probably closer to 45 million with breeding) destroying crop, causing car accidents, etc.

The main reason that deer populations explode is because we eradicate their predators. Reintroducing wolves (lynx, mountain lions etc) is the closest thing to a magic wand (ecologically speaking) I've ever seen.

Wolf Reintroduction Changes Ecosystem in Yellowstone

Wolves are causing a tropic cascade of ecological change, including helping to increase beaver numbers and bring back aspen and vegetation.

www.yellowstonepark.com

Trophic cascade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Subduction Zone]

Worth factoring in health factors.

I did that. The pig that supplied the DNA for the bacon is fine. It is in perfect health.

 

[Haru13]

Lab grown meat is fine as long as it's of animals but I heard someone trying to make human meat and that's kind of disturbing!