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Language, the most lovely evidence of God.

mickiel

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I myself love language. Words and their definition. Communication and the defining of it. Its very powerful and meaningful, it came from God, a very powerful and meaningful individual. It has metaphor. The most fascinating property of language is metaphors. Animals cannot make metaphors, it is by metaphors that language grows. A metaphor is a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable, in order to suggest a resemblance. As in " She is the flower of my life." Well she is not a literal flower, but the meaning is understandble.

This is the power and evidence of a God who has introduced this, certainly evolution has no power to introduce this. Absolutely none! A metaphor is always a known metaphier operating on a less known metaphrand. Animals are nowhere near this complexity, because they have nowhere near the consciousness that humans hold. Metaphors increase enormously our powers of perception of the world around us and our understanding of it. It literally creates. Indeed language is an organ of perception and a definte proof of God, not just simply a means of communication.

Its just lovely, and I want to go into this most lovely proof of God. And I will be using some perceptive language to describe it.

Peace.
 
AuroraWillow

AuroraWillow

Druid of the Olive
Physical evolution is not the basis of language, but there is still a type of evolution behind it. Language is a result of societal and cultural evolution, along with a distinct need to communicate. God didn't create language, humans did.

And, for the record, animals do communicate with each other. They just don't speak human language, but that doesn't mean they have no language skills at all.
 
mickiel

mickiel

Well-Known Member
AuroraWillow said:
Physical evolution is not the basis of language, but there is still a type of evolution behind it. Language is a result of societal and cultural evolution, along with a distinct need to communicate. God didn't create language, humans did.

And, for the record, animals do communicate with each other. They just don't speak human language, but that doesn't mean they have no language skills at all.
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I disagree, animals hold no culture, such reasoning is absurd in my view. I agree animals do comminucate, but not by using metaphors, only humans do that for sure. Because of our brief lives we catch so little of the vastness of our history, we tend to too much think of language as being solid as a dictionary, with granite-like permanance, rather than as the rampant restless sea of metaphor which it is. The evidence of God that it is. Indeed, if we consider the changes in vocabulary that have occured over the last millenia, and project them several millennia hence, an interesting paradox arises.

For if we ever achieve a language that has the power of expressing everything, then metaphor will no longer be possible. I wouldnot say, in that case, " My Love is like a red rose", for love would have exploded into terms for its thousands of nuances, and applying the correct term would leave the rose metaphorically dead. The lexicon of language then, is a finte set of terms that by metaphor is able to stretch out over an infinite set of circumstances, even to creating new circumstances thereby which I view as a definte imprint and evidence of an infinite creator.

Peace.
 
AuroraWillow

AuroraWillow

Druid of the Olive
You know, I'm having trouble forming a coherent response to your argument, because it makes absolutely no bit of sense whatsoever.
 
mickiel

mickiel

Well-Known Member
AuroraWillow said:
You know, I'm having trouble forming a coherent response to your argument, because it makes absolutely no bit of sense whatsoever.
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Well its just not for your mind to comprehend, let it go. Dismiss it, thats what I do to the same that I face. Language is lovely, a thing to behold. Its a thing from a God in my view, Lovely evidence of him. Its academic in my view, we talk and comminucate because we were created from a God who does as such. Matter does not communicate like we do, so our communication cannot originate from matter that created itself from happenstance. Science can only quess at it, I need no theology that excludes the truth from me.

Peace.
 
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mickiel

mickiel

Well-Known Member
As I comminucate with the Atheist here, I understand that language is definte evidence of God, they do not. Amazing, they seem to believe that language came from nothing, just popped up from nowhere and began on its own. They must convince themselves that there is no God, in order to do that, they must give credit to " Our begginning", as a beginning from nothing, there is no way around this. We came from nothing, thats why I consider Atheism, " The Great Nothing." Just believe anything other than God.

It defiles mathmatics itself, something from nothing.

It is transparent and I see through it.

Peace.
 
mickiel

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Atomist said:
That's precisely why I made my thread "Mathematics; the mathiest evidence of god"
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Well mathmatics is complette evidence of God, nothing from nothing can only produce nothing. Impossible assumption on the scientist to insult reality, by claiming that reality, began from unreality. Its academic, can only be! The whole primise of Atheism and evolution is simply a deadly false assumption based on lies. Its simply a lie believed and the effort to force it into the relm of truth.

It is impossible to have life produced from no life. There are no labortory examples of life comming from no life, and will never be!

Its just not even possible.

Peace.
 
Atomist

Atomist

I love you.
mickiel said:
Well mathmatics is complette evidence of God, nothing from nothing can only produce nothing. Impossible assumption on the scientist to insult reality, by claiming that reality, began from unreality. Its academic, can only be! The whole primise of Atheism and evolution is simply a deadly false assumption based on lies. Its simply a lie believed and the effort to force it into the relm of truth.

It is impossible to have life produced from no life. There are no labortory examples of life comming from no life, and will never be!

Its just not even possible.

Peace.
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lol... actually... life has been created from non-life... non-trivially
[youtube]U6QYDdgP9eg[/youtube]
YouTube - The Origin of Life - Abiogenesis - Dr. Jack Szostak
 
PolyHedral

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
nothing from nothing can only produce nothing.
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This is demonstrably wrong. Quantum mechanics implies that particles appear from empty space before promptly vanishing again into pure energy.

(And we're not sure that there is something. If you add up the energy content of the universe, you get very close to zero, IIRC)
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
If animals communicate at all --if we properly use the word "language" in reference to what they do --then they have metaphor. It's essential.
 
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