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Language, the most lovely evidence of God.

MW0082

Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
No, simply because I am not interested in you.

You also have a good day.

Peace.
The only thing you are interested in is making uneducated claims and bait people into your childish activites. Maybe it's time to get a hobby no?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Human language didnot begin itself, we didnot create communication, it was taught and given to us.
by God. It would be intresting to know the first human language, I tend to think, and this is merely speculation, that it probally was Egyptian or Hebrew, maybe even Greek. I would like to know, I am leaning toward Egyptian.

Peace.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
There was no first language, because there is no defining criteria. There are different forms of communication from simple gestures to formal set theory, but no cutoff for when it qualifies as "language."
 

Atomist

I love you.
There was no first language, because there is no defining criteria. There are different forms of communication from simple gestures to formal set theory, but no cutoff for when it qualifies as "language."
Depends if you want to arbitrarily define language or not...

It reminds me of Sorites paradox:

1,000,000 grains of sand is a heap of sand
(Premise 1)
A heap of sand minus one grain is still a heap.
(Premise 2)
...
Conclusion: 1 grain of sand is a heap of sand
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
...Further conclusion: 0 grains of sand is still a heap. One of the premises is wrong. And that was my point. What the "first language" is is pretty arbitrary.
 
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Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
evolution doesn't teach life came from non life, it simply explains how life transforms over time :shrug: why do you disagree with that?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
evolution doesn't teach life came from non life, it simply explains how life transforms over time :shrug: why do you disagree with that?


Because humans didnot transform over time, they remained how God created them. The humans 10,000 years ago looked just like you do now. Same hands, same arms, feet, head, legs, nothing has changed. I have not evolved, my great grandfather has not, his great grandfather didnot evolve, and his great-great grandfather didnot evolve.

Thats why I disagree with it.

Peace.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
If language was evidence for god, wouldn't it be the most linguistic evidence for god, not the loveliest? You need to work on the little alliteration thing you got going on here.

Here's some ideas:

Anuses, the most anal evidence of god
Doo-doo, the most digested evidence of god
Farts, the most flatulent evidence of god

You're welcome, and let me know if you need more.
 

Amill

Apikoros
Since you brought up evolution your topic is unlikely to go anywhere and it's just gonna be the same arguments everyone has already said regarding language and evolution. You probably shouldn't have mentioned it.


But I do wish that I knew as much about the Universe as you do, to be so knowledgeable of what the Universe is and isn't capable of must be incredible.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
If language was evidence for god, wouldn't it be the most linguistic evidence for god, not the loveliest? You need to work on the little alliteration thing you got going on here.

Here's some ideas:

Anuses, the most anal evidence of god
Doo-doo, the most digested evidence of god
Farts, the most flatulent evidence of god

You're welcome, and let me know if you need more.


I think our digestive system is evidence of God. Its a great waste disposal design, which is evidence of a designer.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Language couldnot have evolved , or Primordal man would have spoken it sometime during his 200,000 year or so existence. Don't you think? They had no language, because God didnot give it to them, they had no consciousness. If language came from evolution, Primordal man would have surely had it. Their lack of language is absolute proof of God.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Language couldnot have evolved , or Primordal man would have spoken it sometime during his 200,000 year or so existence. Don't you think? They had no language, because God didnot give it to them, they had no consciousness. If language came from evolution, Primordal man would have surely had it. Their lack of language is absolute proof of God.

Peace.

Primordal man had all the physical requirements to speak and develop language, but their missing componant was the " Spirit in man" which only God can give.

Thats where language comes from.

Peace.
 

Atomist

I love you.
...Further conclusion: 0 grains of sand is still a heap. One of the premises is wrong. And that was my point. What the "first language" is is pretty arbitrary.
I know I was agreeing with you...

actually none of the premises are really wrong... just that heap has no definition... that problem doesn't exist with fuzzy logic incidentally.
 

Skepsis2

Member
Primordal man had all the physical requirements to speak and develop language, but their missing componant was the " Spirit in man" which only God can give.

Thats where language comes from.

Peace.

Humans began to form more complex sounds when their rib structure changed to allow them to keep an even air pressure when blowing out and their larynxes became situated lower in their throat. Oversimplified, but that’s basically it. Doesn’t mean they or any other animals cannot audibly communicate. Whales can communicate over thousands of miles.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Humans began to form more complex sounds when their rib structure changed to allow them to keep an even air pressure when blowing out and their larynxes became situated lower in their throat. Oversimplified, but that’s basically it. Doesn’t mean they or any other animals cannot audibly communicate. Whales can communicate over thousands of miles.


The rib structure of humans have never changed.

Peace.
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
I think our digestive system is evidence of God. Its a great waste disposal design, which is evidence of a designer.

Peace.


I think our digestive system is evidence against God. Why is there waste? I would think a perfect creator, if He existed, could do a better job than that and fabricate a system capable of converting all source material into biophysical energy without the need for a waste disposal system.

Farting, on the other hand, while it might have been unnecessary had God spent more time perfecting our biosystems, I still say, 'keep it', because it makes for fine comedy on occassion. So, I'm okay with that.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I think our digestive system is evidence against God. Why is there waste? I would think a perfect creator, if He existed, could do a better job than that and fabricate a system capable of converting all source material into biophysical energy without the need for a waste disposal system.

Farting, on the other hand, while it might have been unnecessary had God spent more time perfecting our biosystems, I still say, 'keep it', because it makes for fine comedy on occassion. So, I'm okay with that.


Well I certainly disagree with this , our digestive system is a miracle intelligent design, and could ONLY be a design, its too perfect. And obvious proof of God. The digestive system is a tract, a unique series of hollow organs joined in a long twisting tube from the mouth to the anus and other organs that help the body break down and absorb food. The mouth, esophagus, stomach, small intestines and large( which is also refered to as the colon), rectum and anus. Its stunning evidence of Gods ability to design.

Peace.
 
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