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LDS only: Must I quit my job?
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Starfish
Please no sarcasm
That would be a personal decision.
This brings to mind a great little book called Mormons and the Mafia, or something close to that. Through an unusual series of events a top member of the Mafia was exposed to the gospel, gained a testimony and joined the Church. It never occurred to him that his "profession" might be a problem, till his bishop told him one day, that he would have to choose between his job and the Lord. (He'd never told his bishop what he did.) Leaving the mafia would likely cost him his life. With God's help and a lot of faith he managed to leave it, but in the process lost everything--his wife left him, and he lost all his possessions and wealth. He managed to find a new profession and rebuild, and is very happy today.
I've also read accounts of people employed by other religions who became LDS and of course, lost their jobs. It's sacrifice. But with faith, the Lord never abandons those who follow him. They always found another way to earn a living.
Sacrificing everything to follow God has been going on since the beginning of time. One definition of sacrifice is giving up something good for something ultimately better.
This brings to mind a great little book called Mormons and the Mafia, or something close to that. Through an unusual series of events a top member of the Mafia was exposed to the gospel, gained a testimony and joined the Church. It never occurred to him that his "profession" might be a problem, till his bishop told him one day, that he would have to choose between his job and the Lord. (He'd never told his bishop what he did.) Leaving the mafia would likely cost him his life. With God's help and a lot of faith he managed to leave it, but in the process lost everything--his wife left him, and he lost all his possessions and wealth. He managed to find a new profession and rebuild, and is very happy today.
I've also read accounts of people employed by other religions who became LDS and of course, lost their jobs. It's sacrifice. But with faith, the Lord never abandons those who follow him. They always found another way to earn a living.
Sacrificing everything to follow God has been going on since the beginning of time. One definition of sacrifice is giving up something good for something ultimately better.
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Apex
Somewhere Around Nothing
I can't see any reason why you would need to. Some members will look down on it but they will generally be the type of people you do not want to exemplify. I even went to a bar here for my friends 21st birthday, I just didn't drink.
Apex
Somewhere Around Nothing
I fail to see how someone can understand religion if they can switch between them like a new pair of socks.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
you clearly don't understand the concept of a personal testimony.
and cleary you don;t understand that your post is in the DIR forums. GTHO.
FFH
Veteran Member
Yes
We all make choices in this life, whether to serve God or "mammon" (money).
See this link: God or Mammon
I've never touched a drop of beer, wine or smoked anything in my life. "Even the weakest of saints" can obey this simple commandment.
See this link: Weakest of Saints
"My yoke is easy, my burden is light".
See this link: My Yoke is Easy
The rewards of heaven are too great to miss out on. Why should we settle for what the world can give us when our Father in Heaven offers us so much more. I've heard and felt what it's like to be in Heaven, to some degree, it puts everything in this wretched world to shame.
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Starfish
Please no sarcasm
There is no policy on what type of job we should hold. However, a bishop may advise a new member to look for a new career. Advise, not demand.
It's difficult changing one's life, and joining the LDS Church is a BIG change. We are not just a once-a-week religion. Also, Satan is very much against anyone making this type of change and the temptations to return to the former lifestyle would be intense. Therefore, the environment is likely not the best for a new convert.
It's difficult changing one's life, and joining the LDS Church is a BIG change. We are not just a once-a-week religion. Also, Satan is very much against anyone making this type of change and the temptations to return to the former lifestyle would be intense. Therefore, the environment is likely not the best for a new convert.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
There is no commandment against working in a bar. There is a commandment against drinking. I'm sure there are many practicing Latter-day Saints living in Las Vegas who work in the casinos. We don't believe in gambling either. Your decision is between you and the Lord, not between you and a bunch of strangers you have met online.
Starfish
Please no sarcasm
Wow. I've never considered this. I can't even stand to walk into a casino. We took our kids walking on the Strip once to see the "family displays". I won't go back. (Off topic. Sorry.)
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
There is no place in the world I hate like I hate Vegas. I can't stand to walk through the casinos either. Once in awhile, I have to go to Vegas on business, and attend conventions held in hotels there. Inevitably, you have to walk through the casino to get to the convention hall. The picture I have in my head is of a seventy year-old woman in a tank top and shorts, the rolls of fat hanging over her belly. She is staring straight ahead of her at a slot machine, watching almost in a daze as the pictures whirl by, sticking quarters in as fast as the machine eats them. It's 8:30 in the morning, but she's already on her third beer, and a cigarette is hanging out of the corner of her mouth. Not a pretty picture.
This does raise one other question, though. FFH says that if Lion King were to join the LDS Church, he'd have to quit his job in the bar. I wonder if it's dawned on J. Willard Marriott's bishop and stake president that he not only owns a string of very successful hotels, but the casinos attached to them. Maybe FFH needs to rethink his answer.
FFH
Veteran Member
We used to sell beer, where I work, that was about 15 years ago, when we were corporately owned, now we are privately owned. The new LDS owners chose not to sell beer, yet they have since sold the business, but we still continue to not sell beer, under the new ownership. God works all things together for our good.
While I worked under the corporation, I refused to serve beer, so I just delivered pizzas, rather than get into management, and be forced to serve beer, which I felt was wrong for me to do.
God will honor those who honor him in every area of our lives.
It seems very contradictory to serve alcohol and be LDS. I couldn't do it.
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madhatter85
Transhumanist
What about working at a Video game retailer? or a Video Store?
i worked at Fry's electronics and they sell pornography there. fortunately i was not in that section i was in computer components.
But now that i reflect bakc on it i don't think i could work for any place that peddled in the things that are against everything that i hold dear.
i worked at Fry's electronics and they sell pornography there. fortunately i was not in that section i was in computer components.
But now that i reflect bakc on it i don't think i could work for any place that peddled in the things that are against everything that i hold dear.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Heh... it's Vegas; you have to walk past a bank of slots just to get from your gate at the airport to the baggage claim.
I seem to remember reading that in the days when Howard Hughes owned a good chunk of Las Vegas, including a number of casinos, his business advisors were nicknamed "the Mormon Mafia" because of the high proportion of LDS Church members. How did the Church react to that issue?
Starfish
Please no sarcasm
Heh... it's Vegas; you have to walk past a bank of slots just to get from your gate at the airport to the baggage claim.
Which is why I, like Katzpur, can't stand the place either. However, there are many good people in Vegas. And a temple too.
As the story goes, Hughes hired Mormons, because he felt he could trust them. He had many business dealings.
Why would the Church have a reaction?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Well, many Mormons appear to recoil in horror to gambling, drinking and porn, so one would wonder what the church thinks about some of its own members directly dealing in the business of such unfathomably ghastly vices.
Starfish
Please no sarcasm
We don't know that any of Hughes' LDS employees did.
I, for one, am darned grateful to be personally far removed from gambling, drinking and porn. All three bring more destruction to individuals than any possible good. They are akin to spiritual cancer. I am also grateful to belong to a church that has the backbone to teach me this. It has saved me and my family from a lot of grief.
I'm off topic, and don't care.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
But apparently you don't have a problem working on Sundays and being LDS. You wouldn't take your family out to eat on a Sunday and yet you work at a restaurant on Sundays. It sounds like you don't feel comfortable about doing something that would encourage someone to sin in one way (i.e. drinking alcohol) and yet you are okay with doing something that would encourage someone to sin in another way (i.e. not keeping the Sabbath holy). We each draw our own line, don't we?
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