Leftists suggest re-education camps, firing squads, banning talk radio to deprogram Trump supporters

[Revoltingest]

I don't think I've ignored anything here. I may not have the time or the inclination to respond to every post, but I'm not ignoring anything.

I've oft noticed that when I have a different perspective from people,
they'll tell me that I ignored their evidence. Instead, they should
first consider that there's more evidence than what they present,
& that we evaluate it all differently.

 

[Audie]

No, you really don't. You ignore everything on the right in these threads you like to post.

Do you seriously think you wouldn't find similar - and worse - rhetoric coming from the right?

Heck - there are right-wing terrorists in jail right now over their plot against the Michigan state government.


Aww... the same people who spent the last four years sayIng things like "**** your feelings, snowflake" to their political opponents now want people to stop hurting their feelings. Let me take a moment to get over the hypocrisy.

Here's the thing: there are really only two ways that someone can support Trump:

- unknowingly, without realizing the harm he's inflicting on the country and the world.

- knowing full well what he's doing and supporting that wilfully.

The first option is the more charitable assumption, but if assuming it is creating too many hurt feelings, we could go with the second one.

... just know, though: the second option reflects much worse on Trump supporters.

We get a lot of that binary / only two possibilities stuff from fundies.

 

[Goddess Kit]

Logically, there tends to be only two possibilities, unless one wants to go the route of filling in other possibilities with fluff.

 

[Revoltingest]

As noted, we get this all the time from fundies.

Both political & religious.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Here's another thing you might consider: Just because you think you have it all figured out, that may not necessarily be true. You think you can tell me what's what, and that I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Is that how you think it is?

What third option did you have in mind? What option is there for Trump supporters besides "they don't know what they're really supporting" and "they do know what they're really supporting?"

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

If you support the wilful , ignorant and evil.
then you must expect to tarred with the same brush.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you support the wilful , ignorant and evil.
then you must expect to tarred with the same brush.

How many on the left realize that were this
standard applied to them, they too would be all....

 

[Audie]

Both political & religious.

The very existence of other options must be denied!

"Jesus was a madman or a liar"

"WILLFUL, IGNORANT AND EVIL' !- words that apply to anyone.

Especially the first two. Evil takes more opinion to determine.
Commies and capitalists have opposite views on evil.

Too much nuance for the rigidly ideological.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What third option did you have in mind? What option is there for Trump supporters besides "they don't know what they're really supporting" and "they do know what they're really supporting?"

A third option could be that they're right-wing populists and nationalists and Trump was the only offering that comes close to such views. It's like how left-wing populists were supporting Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and others were supporting Tulsi Gabbard. I find it's better to give people the benefit of the doubt and let them speak rather than assuming nefarious things.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

How many on the left realize that were this
standard applied to them, they too would be all....

I did not distinguish between.
left and right in my post
If you support support the wilful , ignorant and evil.
You qualify.

There is very little difference between the parties in the USA as to left and right.

Compared to Europe and the commonwealth they are all far to the right.
However the GOP seems to glory in the under educated and ultra Christian absurdities.
They seem to associate education with liberalism.
But if education inevitably leads liberal thought. perhaps liberal though is where we should all be.

I can not believe that we should all be uneducated morons.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

They seem to associate education with liberalism.
But if education inevitably leads liberal thought. perhaps liberal though is where we should all be.

It doesn't help when universities are full of leftist professors, including open Marxists. The leftist political biases of faculty at Western universities, particularly in social sciences and the humanities, is well-known.

 

[Audie]

A third option could be that they're right-wing populists and nationalists and Trump was the only offering that comes close to such views. It's like how left-wing populists were supporting Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and others were supporting Tulsi Gabbard. I find it's better to give people the benefit of the doubt and let them speak rather than assuming nefarious things.

Don't try that nuance stuff in a totalitarian state!

 

[Audie]

It doesn't help when universities are full of leftist professors, including open Marxists. The leftist political biases of faculty at Western universities, particularly in social sciences and the humanities, is well-known.

The notion that liberal equals educated is totsl crap.

See W. Churchill quote on same.

ETA- actually that quote appears to be false.

Perhaps it persists as it seem to reflect his views?

 

[Revoltingest]

I did not distinguish between.
left and right in my post

I know.
I addressed some who will read your post.

If you support support the wilful , ignorant and evil.
You qualify.

What if one supports one evil in order to defeat a greater evil?

There is very little difference between the parties in the USA as to left and right.

Not so! There is a difference...
Democrats pretend to like black folk.
Republicans pretend to like small government.

 

[Audie]

I know.
I addressed some who will read your post.

What if one supports one evil in order to defeat a greater evil?

Not so! There is a difference...
Democrats pretend to like black folk.
Republicans pretend to like small government.

OMG, that means FDR was evil!,

 

[Revoltingest]

OMG, that means FDR was evil!,

All Presidents had some evil in them.
Even St Obama.

 

[Audie]

All Presidents had some evil in them.
Even St Obama.

Ok you too, off to the gulag for nuancers.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I know.
I addressed some who will read your post.

What if one supports one evil in order to defeat a greater evil?

Not so! There is a difference...
Democrats pretend to like black folk.
Republicans pretend to like small government.

I do not recognise either of those attributes as either left or right leaning.

 

[Revoltingest]

I do not recognise either of those attributes as either left or right leaning.

What of supporting a lesser evil to avoid a greater one?

 

[Stevicus]

What third option did you have in mind? What option is there for Trump supporters besides "they don't know what they're really supporting" and "they do know what they're really supporting?"

Well, when you say "what they're really supporting," what you really mean is your opinion about what "they're really supporting."

So, when you take your own opinion and try to express it as if it's absolute fact (as you did in your "there are only two ways" claim), then it's already starting on shaky ground.

Besides, I've pointed out numerous times, people generally aren't voting for a candidate as much as they're voting against the other candidate. If you're studying my posts as closely as you seem to imply here, then you would have known that already.