Lesbians

[Green Gaia]

Women who love women are Lesbians.

Men, because they can only think of women in sexual terms, define "Lesbian" as sex between women. -Rita Mae Brown

Do you think this is true? Do straight people define lesbian as "sex between women"? When they do this, are they denying that two women could possibly be in love with each other and thus the relationship is only sexual in nature?

If I were to say, "I am a lesbian." What would be the first thought that pops into your head:
a) she has/wants to have sex with other women, or
b) she loves and is attracted to other women?

Be honest.


p.s. Please, do not use this thread to discuss the morality of lesbianism/homosexuality.

 

[nutshell]

Women who love women are Lesbians.

Men, because they can only think of women in sexual terms, define "Lesbian" as sex between women. -Rita Mae Brown

Do you think this is true? Do straight people define lesbian as "sex between women"? When they do this, are they denying that two women could possibly be in love with each other and thus the relationship is only sexual in nature?

If I were to say, "I am a lesbian." What would be the first thought that pops into your head:
a) she has/wants to have sex with other women, or
b) she loves and is attracted to other women?

Be honest.


p.s. Please, do not use this thread to discuss the morality of lesbianism/homosexuality.

I think Rita-Mae Brown is stereotyping men (not surprising - she's a feminist, right?).

If someone says they are a lesbian then I think "b" first and then "a."
There's my honest answer.

 

[Nehustan]

I'd imagine that all women can love each other, intimately and in a very real sense, irrespective of their sexuality. To me Lesbian(ism) refers to the female homosexual act, and a Lesbian relationship would be a realtionship based on love but supplemented by the sexual act between the two parties.

 

[Green Gaia]

I think Rita-Mae Brown is stereotyping men (not surprising - she's a feminist, right?).

Yes she is, she's a lesbian author.

 

[Halcyon]

Honestly i'd say B.

I've never even contemplated lesbianism as being option A, it just seems silly.

I don't know what men Rita Mae Brown has been talking too .

 

[Green Gaia]

I don't know what men Rita Mae Brown has been talking too .

I can imagine her saying it half-jokingly, having read some of her humor, but it got me thinking about what people think when they hear the word "lesbian".

 

[evearael]

b) someone who loves and is attracted to other women.

People presume I am straight because I am married and a mother. When they learn I'm bisexual, they presume that I am not faithful to my spouse and engage in threesomes and am just general promiscuous--completely false on all counts. Sadly, there are enough promiscuous bi's out there to perpetuate this stereotype. Your sexual orientation has nothing to do with sex. People also claim I must have 'changed teams' because I love my husband, like it is a binary choice and it is not--I get this response from lesbians and straights.

 

[jewscout]

i gotta go w/ B on this one...probably just cause i've seen lesbian relationships up close and personal (and not in that way you perv! )
as some of you know my sister is a lesbian and i have met many lesbians and gay men since she came out and seen many in long term relationships.

 

[Green Gaia]

Your sexual orientation has nothing to do with sex. People also claim I must have 'changed teams' because I love my husband, like it is a binary choice and it is not--I get this response from lesbians and straights.

Bingo! :clap

It's true, bisexuals get misconceptions about themselves from both sides. Thank you for your sharing. :hug:

 

[Green Gaia]

i gotta go w/ B on this one...probably just cause i've seen lesbian relationships up close and personal (and not in that way you perv! )
as some of you know my sister is a lesbian and i have met many lesbians and gay men since she came out and seen many in long term relationships.

Having a family member or close friend in a same sex relationship usually helps to de-sexualize it in people's minds, I think. You don't want to think about your sister having sex with anyone... eeww! But you see the love and happiness in her when she's with her partner, so that's what you know of their relationship.

 

[jewscout]

Your sexual orientation has nothing to do with sex. People also claim I must have 'changed teams' because I love my husband, like it is a binary choice and it is not--I get this response from lesbians and straights.

hehe reminds me of what i tell Morgan (my sister),

I'm gay too, i'm a lesbian in a man's body



(it's a joke people, you can laugh, she does )

 

[Green Gaia]

Are lesbian couples more accepted than gay couples? If so, why?

 

[jewscout]

Are lesbian couples more accepted than gay couples? If so, why?

i think so because in america's dirty yet puritan mindset when you think of gay men only one thing comes up in the mind...and we all know what i'm talking about and please don't ask me to spell it out for you. It's this act that makes the Americans (at least in the heterosexual community) less open to gay men than lesbians.

it's sad but it's probably more true than we want to admit.

but that's just my opinion

 

[kevmicsmi]

Women who love women are Lesbians.

Men, because they can only think of women in sexual terms, define "Lesbian" as sex between women. -Rita Mae Brown

Do you think this is true? Do straight people define lesbian as "sex between women"? When they do this, are they denying that two women could possibly be in love with each other and thus the relationship is only sexual in nature?

If I were to say, "I am a lesbian." What would be the first thought that pops into your head:
a) she has/wants to have sex with other women, or
b) she loves and is attracted to other women?

Be honest.


p.s. Please, do not use this thread to discuss the morality of lesbianism/homosexuality.

Obviously I would think A because straight women can love other women, and what is attractions natural conclusion? Sex.

 

[Green Gaia]

I've read many times that pro sports leagues and advertisers don't want women to come out as being lesbian because they fear it will hurt the sport. Does being a woman being an out lesbian matter to you if she is a good athlete?

 

[kevmicsmi]

Are lesbian couples more accepted than gay couples? If so, why?

Yes, because there are certain things in society women can get away with that men cant. Just the way it is

 

[evearael]

I think a lot of men's minds just drift off to themselves in the middle...

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Women who love women are Lesbians.

Men, because they can only think of women in sexual terms, define "Lesbian" as sex between women. -Rita Mae Brown

Do you think this is true? Do straight people define lesbian as "sex between women"? When they do this, are they denying that two women could possibly be in love with each other and thus the relationship is only sexual in nature?

If I were to say, "I am a lesbian." What would be the first thought that pops into your head:
a) she has/wants to have sex with other women, or
b) she loves and is attracted to other women?

Be honest.


p.s. Please, do not use this thread to discuss the morality of lesbianism/homosexuality.

I think that your distinctions between "a" and "b" is artificial. It's not likely that you will want to have sex with someone that you're not attracted to, and it looks like that attraction is a part of love as defined in "b".

I am a man, and I love several men: my father, my uncles, and a few old friends. I'm not attracted to any of them. I love my mother and my sister and several close female friends, but I am not sexually attracted to most of them, and by no means do I consider myself a bisexual. There is a difference between love and sex, and sex can be an expression of love or used a number of other ways.

Lesbians are women sexually attracted to women - it is the sexual attraction that is the key defining element, but our entire lives are not defined by sex - lesbians are normal people who can love anyone, and express their sexuality with other women as a part of love or whatever else they want to use sex for - be it constructive or destructive. So when someone says that they are a lesbian it tells me that they are sexually attracted to females.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I've read many times that pro sports leagues and advertisers don't want women to come out as being lesbian because they fear it will hurt the sport. Does being a woman being an out lesbian matter to you if she is a good athlete?

IMHO, there's plenty of hot women for the both of us.

But I could be bias because I spend most of my life on a college campus with 3/4 of the population females under 25.:162:

 

[Green Gaia]

IMHO, there's plenty of hot women for the both of us.

:jam: