Lessons and going out after dark while being a woman

[BSM1]

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quote=dyanaprajna2011;3199134]This is the reason why I try to teach my fiance martial arts. That way, if this were to happen to her, she'd have a chance of defending herself.

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Or even a concealed carry permit.

 

[beenie]

I'm thoroughly disgusted (but not surprised) by that guru's ridiculous comment.

 

[Penumbra]

I'm so surprised and shocked to see that you confirm that (many of) India's gurus are so ....... 'crank'?

There was me (before this thread), thinking that they were so spiritual..... Live and learn.

Some religious leaders in the west (or more generally, the Abrahamic religions) are sexist, or unethical, or viewed as antiquated by the public, or any number of negative traits.

Some people in the west may idealize eastern religions to a certain extent from an outside view, but really, there's no reason that many of their religious leaders would have the same problem as a lot of western religious leaders.

I've seen all sorts of social comments by members here and in real life from people of Dharmic religions that make me .

 

[nameless]

I'm thoroughly disgusted (but not surprised) by that guru's ridiculous comment.

quoted below are the statements made by the 'guru' in the video clip(http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4418333.cms) provided by the media.

"she was travelling in a white bus. When the rapist assaulted her, My heart did pain, but if the victim have taken 'Diksha'(spiritual initiation) then this would not have happened to her, And even if one of the accused taken 'diksha' then he would have stopped others from doing so."

nothing more, nothing less.
do you find anything disgusting with these?

india is a country with loads of fraud gurus, but it is also a fact that indian media is biased and anti-hindu. The video clip presented by the media is not enough to prove their claim that the 'guru' stated the victim is equally responsible for the rape. Im still waiting for the media to present the actual video clip to support their claim, i already know this guru is a fraud but im not going to trust every accusation made against him by the media.

 

[twilightdance]

Relatively little fault lies with the government, and relying on the government to solve everything is part of why India is in such a mess.

What little economic growth india had seen over the last few years have been without the government, but one is left with no choice but depend on govt when it comes to issues like domestic and border security. Since we cannot buy guns or stand our ground without going to jail, there is indeed no other choice on this matter.

India is a mess also because govt will not stop messing with india's resources, rules and its people.

But the general point you say is true, this particular issue of safety of women goes much beyond police security.

 

[Shuddhasattva]

But the general point you say is true, this particular issue of safety of women goes much beyond police security.

I think the physical safety of women issue is a symptom of an underlying disease mentioned by others with better feminist street cred (thread cred?) than I in this thread; the disenfranchisement and erasure of women, full stop.

There are so many cultural (and religious) attitudes that need to be retooled completely in this century, in this generation even, if India is to truly shine as an example to the world of model development and civic society.

Because that is the very real potential that has always been there, in any country truly.

India is blessed with such high-minded philosophy, and infinitely more blessed to find such a chariot behind surefooted practical animals of methods and practices. But now rather than dwelling neath the shade of this wisdom, we are forced to weather the consequences of our hypocrisy.

We talk high-mindedly, particularly people who like to think of themselves as Vedic revivalists - Samajis and so forth, who will wax pious about how perfected the Vedic system is, how scientific (!), how egalitarian, how feministic, etc., all a potpourri of lies and half-truths whitewashing the true history of nobility...such as it is.

A cultural revolution of vast proportion is needed, and a cultural revolution - not a Maoist one proceeding from the barrel of guns - but a democratic and egalitarian one may come about, and such a shared fire will spread across the world - how could it not, with 1.5 billion people undergoing a transformative process by its grace.

I've seen few better opportunities for change than in India. The question is how to convert empty boot-rallying into salt marching.