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Let's not talk about the Big Bang

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I've seen posts from people declaring things are "improving" on this earth. The news is telling something else. As Jesus said, men would continue doing the usual like marrying, and other such things and at the same time things would be getting really bad, but -- then -- the end would come. Some, like those in Jerusalem while Jesus warned them, escaped. Others did not, as the arch of Titus brings out.


Its only for in the last 100 years that people have had access to the news. And of course news is designed to be sensational to keep people watching and listening.

What it doesn't tell you is that you used your conputing device and the internet to makes your statement about things getting worse, your estimated life span has more than tripled since the advent of medical science. Utilities and sanitation are considerably more common now. You are not limited to the walking area around the hovel you would have lived in.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Its only for in the last 100 years that people have had access to the news. And of course news is designed to be sensational to keep people watching and listening.

What it doesn't tell you is that you used your conputing device and the internet to makes your statement about things getting worse, your estimated life span has more than tripled since the advent of medical science. Utilities and sanitation are considerably more common now. You are not limited to the walking area around the hovel you would have lived in.
:) I knew there would be someone like you saying the world is getting better. OK, enjoy, thanks.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Are you? Some people become Hindus, Bahais, Jews, we all select. You have selected to believe there is no God.

You were responding this post here from @ChristineM:

Fyi, it was a majority Christian nation with a Christian politicians, and a high probability of Christian yes men Christian loaders, christian pilots and christian bomb aimers who are the only ones to use the atomic bomb in anger

ChristineM said nothing about Hindus, Jews or Bahais. ChristineM only brought up the past history of Christian actions.

Christians who acted badly (eg corruption), violently or starting wars, don't make them "less Christian" than you.

ChristineM even brought up list of events that Christians started, in post #362.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Are you? Some people become Hindus, Bahais, Jews, we all select. You have selected to believe there is no God.

What has this to to with my post?

I have but I don't judge people on their religion, only their deliberate ignorance
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
:) I knew there would be someone like you saying the world is getting better. OK, enjoy, thanks.

Read some history and learn

Yes there are problems, there always has been. There are however many benefits from living in the modern age. Benefits that you are most happy to use so slag off the modern age
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You were responding this post here from @ChristineM:


ChristineM said nothing about Hindus, Jews or Bahais. ChristineM only brought up the past history of Christian actions.

Christians who acted badly (eg corruption), violently or starting wars, don't make them "less Christian" than you.

ChristineM even brought up list of events that Christians started, in post #362.

Cheers.
He is doing the typical fundamental trick of ignoring the opposition and attempting to twist the conversation to massage her ego
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The Franks, 780: post-defeat of Saxons, Charlemagne ordered forced conversion of the Saxons, mass-execution on those refusing to convert.
Yes, Charlemagne but Not by the teachings of Jesus - Matthew 26:52; John 18:11
Going against the teachings of Jesus does Not make one a Christian - Matthew 7:21-23
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
What if other Christians think you are not a real Christian, as you do to them? Can you really judge other Christians of being "not Christian"?
Isn't arrogant to judge who is Christian and who is not?

Surely Jesus did Not want us to make personal decision judgement of another by imputing a bad or wrong motive to another (Luke 6:37; Matthew 7:1-4) however, when it comes to God's written Word (Bible) God's judgement is already recorded as to what makes up a real Christian ( a genuine 'wheat' Christian as opposed to being a fake' weed/tares' Christian - Matthew 13:24-30 )
Notice Jesus said both the real and the false would grow together until the Harvest Time.
As we know a harvest comes at the end of a long growing season.
Sure in our eyes 2,000 years seems like a long growing season, and Jesus said MANY would come in his name and prove false at Matthew 7:21-23.
Real Christians would listen to Jesus' New commandment as found at John 13:34-35; John 15:12.
Real Christians are to now love neighbor as Jesus did. Love neighbor MORE than self, more than the Golden Rule.
As Jesus did Not take up weapons and nor did his 1st-century followers real Christians would also Not take up arms.
That is Not a personal judgement of another, but following what Jesus said.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
According to your interpretation of the Bible. It's not like we can talk to Jesus and ask him about it.
We can read Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible. Jesus' words won't change.
We can comprehend Jesus' words comparing them with what is being said.
Christendom's fruits ( teachings outside of Scripture but taught as being Scripture ) don't match what Jesus taught.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
We can read Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible. Jesus' words won't change.
We can comprehend Jesus' words comparing them with what is being said.
Christendom's fruits ( teachings outside of Scripture but taught as being Scripture ) don't match what Jesus taught.
Yes, we can. And we can, and do, interpret them differently and come to different conclusions. Hence the reason there are so many different brands of Christianity in existence, each one differing from the next on some point or another.

We don't have any idea whether or not the words in the Bible were actually uttered by Jesus.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Nope. Taking it in context. But since for those believing in evolution or the "Big Bang" as if there is no God involved in creation, doesn't matter, does it?
I find since God's Power, His Strength is what starts creation (Psalms 104:30; Isaiah 40:26 ) then God is the dynamic Power and Strength behind the Big Bang and Not evolution.
 
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