Let's Talk About Zen

[Spice]

4. Koans: In Zen practice, koans—paradoxical statements or questions—are used to provoke deep introspection and challenge conventional thinking in order to cultivate a profound understanding of one's true nature

Quakers have a similar practice, though I've forgotten what they call these "questions." I thought this may be of interest to some thread followers:

The Zen of Quakerism

If, when I’m feeling a little playful, someone were to ask me to summarize Quakerism in a sentence or two, I might say this: You have a heart. Use it. If the person looked puzzled or expectant, I m…

postmodernquaker.wordpress.com

A zen koan:
You have a heart. Use it.

A Quaker koan:
What is your original heart before you were born?

 

[JustGeorge]

Quakers have a similar practice, though I've forgotten what they call this "questions." I thought this may be of interest to some thread followers:

The Zen of Quakerism

If, when I’m feeling a little playful, someone were to ask me to summarize Quakerism in a sentence or two, I might say this: You have a heart. Use it. If the person looked puzzled or expectant, I m…

postmodernquaker.wordpress.com

A zen koan:
You have a heart. Use it.

A Quaker koan:
What is your original heart before you were born?

I like that one. (Well, those two.)

 

[Secret Chief]

Quakers have a similar practice, though I've forgotten what they call these "questions." I thought this may be of interest to some thread followers:

The Zen of Quakerism

If, when I’m feeling a little playful, someone were to ask me to summarize Quakerism in a sentence or two, I might say this: You have a heart. Use it. If the person looked puzzled or expectant, I m…

postmodernquaker.wordpress.com

A zen koan:
You have a heart. Use it.

A Quaker koan:
What is your original heart before you were born?

We had Quakers regularly at our Zen centre.

 

[Spice]

We had Quakers regularly at our Zen centre.

There appears to be a great deal of overlap. One, most certainly, is sitting in silence for direct knowing.

 

[The Hammer]

Quakers have a similar practice, though I've forgotten what they call these "questions." I thought this may be of interest to some thread followers:

The Zen of Quakerism

If, when I’m feeling a little playful, someone were to ask me to summarize Quakerism in a sentence or two, I might say this: You have a heart. Use it. If the person looked puzzled or expectant, I m…

postmodernquaker.wordpress.com

A zen koan:
You have a heart. Use it.

A Quaker koan:
What is your original heart before you were born?

You might like this quick jaunt I have on my shelf.

 

[Secret Chief]

There appears to be a great deal of overlap. One, most certainly, is sitting in silence for direct knowing.

Indeed. They brought good biscuits too. Win-win.

 

[Secret Chief]

You might like this quick jaunt I have on my shelf.

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In a similar syncretic vein I could recommend The Tao of Zen, by Ray Grigg. It basically covers the intermixing of Buddhism and Daoism to create Chan Buddhism in China, which was then carried to Japan where is became known as Zen Buddhism.

 

[PureX]

I don't know too much about this branch of Buddhism, but have enjoyed the little I've read on it.

What do you know about Zen?

What do you appreciate about Zen?

I only know that I really liked the stories. Stories about a craftsman taking 30 years to learn how to finally make the perfect clay pot, only to discover that his teacher still makes a better pot than him. Because the teacher makes his perfect clay pot WITH the perfect flaw in it.

How to see what isn't there. Like, it's not the four walls and the roof that make a place for one to live. It's the empty space between the four walls and the roof.

 

[crossfire]

In a similar syncretic vein I could recommend The Tao of Zen, by Ray Grigg. It basically covers the intermixing of Buddhism and Daoism to create Chan Buddhism in China, which was then carried to Japan where is became known as Zen Buddhism.

I furthered the syncretic flow by imbibing dark, dark chocolate and matcha tea with koan practice. (and I haven't even reached for the dark chocolate at the mention of koans in this thread-----yet.)

 

[Secret Chief]

I furthered the syncretic flow by imbibing dark, dark chocolate and matcha tea with koan practice. (and I haven't even reached for the dark chocolate at the mention of koans in this thread-----yet.)

I can't match () your beverage, I'm a simple green tea imbiber.

 

[mangalavara]

What do you know about Zen?

All I really know is that it is a tradition within Mahayana Buddhism and that zazen is one of its practices.

What do you appreciate about Zen?

I appreciate it for existing and being a path to enlightenment for many individuals and communities (yes, I know, it is not a path and that there is no enlightenment to attain, lol).

Long ago, when I began researching Buddhism and took interest in some of the practices, zazen was a practice that I tried out for a little while. There was this one afternoon of meditation in my bedroom that I will never forget. After the meditation, when I fully opened my eyes, I saw that everything and I were one without separation. There was a feeling of love toward everything. It was a special moment.

 

[Twilight Hue]

All I really know is that it is a tradition within Mahayana Buddhism and that zazen is one of its practices.



I appreciate it for existing and being a path to enlightenment for many individuals and communities (yes, I know, it is not a path and that there is no enlightenment to attain, lol).

Long ago, when I began researching Buddhism and took interest in some of the practices, zazen was a practice that I tried out for a little while. There was this one afternoon of meditation in my bedroom that I will never forget. After the meditation, when I fully opened my eyes, I saw that everything and I were one without separation. There was a feeling of love toward everything. It was a special moment.

Then Roshi suddenly blows it all off with a huff, leaving you royally pissed he just pooped on your party! That degenerate scoundrel!

 

[mangalavara]

Then Roshi suddenly blows it all off with a huff, leaving you royally pissed he just pooped on your party! That degenerate scoundrel!

Roshi? Isn’t that the boy character on Winnie the Pooh? Christopher Roshi? I don’t think he’s a degenerate scoundrel at all!

 

[crossfire]

I can't match () your beverage, I'm a simple green tea imbiber.

I'm imbibing in some now. I'm leaving the chocolate alone.

 

[jhonsteve111]

Zen Buddhism emphasizes direct experience, meditation (zazen), and mindfulness in everyday life. It values simplicity and uses koans to challenge conventional thinking. I appreciate its grounding focus on awareness and the present moment. What intrigues you about Zen?

 

[Spice]

I'm trying to read the Lotus Sutra. It's a challenge that hopefully will become easier to grasp once some of the new vocabulary becomes less distracting. It calls to me to keep trying.