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LGBTQ
- Thread starter Kfox
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It's about being outside what is "normal".
(The quote marks should insulate me from
triggering the taking of offense for using
that word.)
Also, being trans isn't just how one identifies.
Just as sexual attraction is a mental condition,
so is gender identification. And being trans
can have measurable physical features.
@Shadow Wolf can enlighten further.
(She's one of those pervy types so hated
by the Maga crowd.)
VoidCat
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Look up history. You'll find the answer. Transfolk have been essential to fighting fir equal rights in the movement the backbone of it. It was a black transwoman that helped start the first protest for gay rights, and a black transwoman started the stonewall riots. History in the US in terms of getting equal right for the whole movement was ran by a large portion of transpeople.
Why bother with such a post?
VoidCat
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I doubt the OP actually cares about the history of the LGBT movement but in case anyone is here's a book...without trans people there would be no gay marriage and a large amount of gay people would be in prison right now due to sodomy laws and other regulations that targetted the lgbt community. Trans people were the backbone from the start of the movement:
Then how come religious people aren't added? There are plenty of Bigots who hate Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc as well; as a matter of fact, there are bigots who are LGBTQ; no category has cornered the market on bigotry.
VoidCat
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I'll also add a lot of those laws and regulations did affect trans people. From the antisodomy laws to anti gay marriage laws. Strongly. Basically both the T and the LGB were affect by the same laws and both needed to work together to get them fixed.
Remember the movement isnt new and the history of it started from bloodshed and discrimination. That's why those groups are together a common cause and need for reform. There would have been no movement without transfolk. They were the ones to light that fire.
One might think that any marginally interested and intelligent person would at least look up the LGBTQ Wikipedia entry and note the section labeled Transgender inclusion.
Normal by what metric? If there are more LGBTQ's than there are people with red hair, is red hair outside of what is normal?
What else is it?
How one identifies IS a mental condition. And what measurable physical features do trans people have?
Come to think of it, why not add aggrieved whiners?
White transwomen have done much for the Trans community as well, but you don't see White people added to the acronym; soo.........
Answer my question, then I will answer yours.
VoidCat
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I don't care what you think. You clearly don't care about the history else you won't be asking why trans people were added to the acrynom in 1988. I only commented so that other people reading this thread know the history. And I put black transwomen because historically no one really acknowledges the full impact they had on the movement.
I doubt you know anything about the stonewall riots and why they happened and the state of things prior to the 1960s
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A rigorous working definition of "normal"
is above my pay grade. Let's just say it
refers to cis gendered people without
significant deviation from the genetic norm.
Non sequitur.
How one feels, for one.
Also to varying extents, genotypical & phenotypical expression.
As is one's sexual preference.
This is where I want @Shadow Wolf to weigh
in about brain scans showing differences.
Is your purpose really to argue against
inclusion of the "L" in "LGBTQ"?
Your article is about the LG&B people, not the T.
VoidCat
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That's not an article. It's a book. Has lot of info including trans folk and lgb folk
VoidCat
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To prove this:
That's the back of said book. Sorry it's sideways don't know how to fix that.
That's because what is considered normal is completely subjective. Today the LG&B are considered completely "normal"Is your purpose really to argue againstinclusion of the "L" in "LGBTQ"?
Just looking for answers.
You're assuming that (a) he knows the difference, and (b) cares. Reread the first sentence in post #6.