LGBTQ

[PureX]

People are all the same.

People are all unique.

Both statements are true, and both statements are false.

So now what?

 

[Revoltingest]

Laken Riley, Kate Steinie, Jeremy Caceras, Shannon Jungwirth and her son Jorge, Melissa Powell and her son Riordan Powell, Catalina Andrade and Merced Ballon, and Aiden Clark can no longer exercise any rights at all.

Some of them and some of their relatives, are or were Republicans.

I don't know whom that post is addressed to, but I'll
respond to the part that interests me (underlined)....
BoooOOOoooOOOooooOOOOoooOOOgus!
I don't believe they've lost all their constitutional rights.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

When you attempt to put multiple groups under the same banner; as if they were one (which they are not) you get groups under the same banner who disagree/bigoted against each other; whether it be blacks and browns against gays, or gays and lesbians against trans; these are different groups; trying to conflate them all into one doesn't make sense IMO due to this reason.

There's forms of in-group bigotry within all groups, too. Like with black people, you have colorism.

But black and brown people being on the current pride flag (I don't care for that eyesore, by the way) isn't about black and brown people in general. It was to recognize the black/brown LGBT people and their contributions to the community.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

When you attempt to put multiple groups under the same banner; as if they were one (which they are not) you get groups under the same banner who disagree/bigoted against each other; whether it be blacks and browns against gays, or gays and lesbians against trans; these are different groups; trying to conflate them all into one doesn't make sense IMO due to this reason.

I've suggested to you how they are originally and even still currently lumped together by bigotry that appears (to me) to be gender-based. My suspicion is it's based on misogynistic views of females being inferior, but regardless, they are lumped together in solidarity because bigotry towards them has forced it.

 

[Kathryn]

I don't know whom that post is addressed to, but I'll
respond to the part that interests me (underlined)....
BoooOOOoooOOOooooOOOOoooOOOgus!
I don't believe they've lost all their constitutional rights.

Oh since they're all dead, I'd say they've lost all their rights.

 

[Kfox]

But black and brown people being on the current pride flag (I don't care for that eyesore, by the way) isn't about black and brown people in general. It was to recognize the black/brown LGBT people and their contributions to the community.

If that's the case, how come they don't have white LGBT and their contributions to the community?

 

[Kfox]

I've suggested to you how they are originally and even still currently lumped together by bigotry that appears (to me) to be gender-based. My suspicion is it's based on misogynistic views of females being inferior, but regardless, they are lumped together in solidarity because bigotry towards them has forced it.

They may be lumped together, but there definitely isn't solidarity.

 

[Kathryn]

Rather than a gender test, how about if we separate everybody on the basis of biology rather than gender? If you were born with only X sex Chromosomes, (assuming you do not have Swyers Syndrome) you play women's sports, and if you have the y you play with the men. Sounds like an easy fix to me.

Whatever you want to call it but it's not that hard to do, or even very expensive.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh since they're all dead, I'd say they've lost all their rights.

Are they being granted fewer rights than dead Democrats?
Does this mean that you answered a question by requesting
answers from dead people?
You're really bad at answering questions.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If that's the case, how come they don't have white LGBT and their contributions to the community?

The same reason we don't have white history month, but we have black history month.

 

[Kathryn]

Are they being granted fewer rights than dead Democrats?
Does this mean that you answered a question by requesting
answers from dead people?
You're really bad at answering questions.

No. I'm bad at answering questions the way you want me to. And if you like, you can ask their relatives who are still alive.

And I answered the question already. Just not to your liking because I didn't fall into your trap or whatever you call it.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

They may be lumped together, but there definitely isn't solidarity.

There is, and there isn't. Like all groups, there are those who disagree with each other and those who support each other. The gay and transfolks I know tend towards solidarity.

 

[Revoltingest]

No. I'm bad at answering questions the way you want me to.

True dat.
I like clear direct answers.
The inscrutable kind don't satisfy.

 

[Kathryn]

True dat.
I like clear direct answers.
The inscrutable kind don't satisfy.

Sorry, don't know how to make it any more clear than this:

"Laken Riley, Kate Steinie, Jeremy Caceras, Shannon Jungwirth and her son Jorge, Melissa Powell and her son Riordan Powell, Catalina Andrade and Merced Ballon, and Aiden Clark can no longer exercise any rights at all." Post #101.

Other than saying directly that they are dead, but I can't believe you didn't recognize a single name on that list. Wait, yes I can.

 

[Sumadji]

End of the day, I can walk around with a sign declaring im a squirrel or a sausage roll and the constitution allows me to believe that, and forbids society to persecute me or discriminate against me for being entitled to my own belief -- but it does not demand society acknowledge my own estimation as common reality, or require extended society to adopt my own terms as common language and mould itself around my own fringe demands?

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, don't know how to make it any more clear than this:

"Laken Riley, Kate Steinie, Jeremy Caceras, Shannon Jungwirth and her son Jorge, Melissa Powell and her son Riordan Powell, Catalina Andrade and Merced Ballon, and Aiden Clark can no longer exercise any rights at all."

Other than saying directly that they are dead, but I can't believe you didn't recognize a single name on that list. Wait, yes I can.

You earlier didn't say they're dead.
You still don't say why they're dead, or how it relates to the question.
You don't say how they have fewer rights resulting from being Republican.

You're just listing names, as though that answers
the question of Republicans being denied rights
afforded others. You might as well say....
"Temba, his arms wide."
It would make just as much sense.

 

[Kathryn]

You earlier didn't say they're dead.
You still don't say why they're dead, or how it relates to the question.
You don't say how they have fewer rights resulting from being Republican.

You're just listing names, as though that answers
the question of Republicans being denied rights
afforded others. You might as well say....
"Temba, his arms wide."
It would make just as much sense.

Laken Riley's parents at least are Republicans. Probably more but I'm uninterested in lookng them all up. They are all dead (the people on my list) because they were murdered by illegal immigrants.

Gosh, I can't believe you don't know at least one or two names on this list! No wonder your team lost this time around.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

End of the day, I can walk around with a sign declaring im a squirrel or a sausage roll and the constitution allows me to believe that, and forbids society to persecute me or discriminate against me for being entitled to my own belief -- but it does not demand society acknowledge my own estimation as common reality, or require extended society to adopt my own terms as common language and mould itself around my own fringe demands?

But you are required to acknowledge other people's rights. And if you exercise your free speech in a way that causes public disruption or violates someone's rights, there are consequences.

 

[Revoltingest]

Laken Riley's parents at least are Republicans. Probably more but I'm uninterested in lookng them all up. They are all dead (the people on my list) because they were murdered by illegal immigrants.

True, the dead lack many of the rights granted to the living.
But that's totally irrelevant to the claim that Republicans
are granted fewer rights.

Gosh, I can't believe you don't know at least one or two names on this list! No wonder your team lost this time around.

What you believe about my familiarity with
names on a list is irrelevant to the issue.
I the issue, rather than the individuals.

 

[Kathryn]

True, the dead lack many of the rights granted to the living.
But that's totally irrelevant to the claim that Republicans
are granted fewer rights.

What you believe about my familiarity with
names on a list is irrelevant to the issue.
I the issue, rather than the individuals.

I didn't say or imply that Republicans are granted fewer rights for the record.

That being said, no friends or families of the deceased I listed have any rights with the dead.