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Liberals are intolerant of opposing views and opinions.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It makes me wonder why there is such a focus and emphasis on Liberals, and Millenials as well. It's not like these are new problems. Jim Crow laws in the Reconstruction era (and later), as well as McCathy demonstrate that intolerance is absolutely nothing new. However, today's Liberals aren't segregating people based on skin color and launching ideological witch hunts. It's not at all like they are the first generation to say "don't say this, or else." Rather, there "or else" doesn't come with imprisonments.
There are a couple of old threads. the top one got a good deal of attention. The staff have discussed the idea of a nationalist sub-forum in their own forums but it hasn't got anywhere.
February 2017:
Nationalist/far-right subforum?
April 2015:
Third Position and Nationalist subforums?
I don't see why not. There is a communist forum, and that is a controversial subject in itself.
The focus is there because of the liberals being so illiberal.
And yes, they do segregate based upon color.
Here’s why Harvard is holding an individual graduation ceremony for black students this month
I know. I linked you the threads so you could see the debate on it. Some of the staff members replied in the top thread I think.
Thanks Laika!
It has gotten to the point now that I am having a difficult time defining what a liberal actually is.
I know.
Does it include the illiberal posers too?
I say it does, which is why the words "some" & "not all" are so useful.
I agree. I am trying to adopt specific examples in these discussions as well. That seems to help, I think context is important. It is also important to remember not all conservatives are Rush Limbaugh clones and some even dislike Trump (GASP!).
Guy Threepwood
Mighty Pirate
definitely blame to go around on all sides...
but, if there is a fundamental difference, I find liberals tend to be less 'libertarian' less approving of concepts like true democracy, or even citizen juries sometimes- i.e. there is a certain thread- of owning a superior world view which justifies being forced on the ignorant masses 'for their own good'
conservatives also passionately feel they are 'right' obviously.. but it seems pretty clear they are far more likely to trust 'the people' on more issues, and let it all come out in the wash, over having a political elite force their views through..
I'll add that the modern liberal favors problem solvnig thru powerful government authority.
Government determines what is best, & imposes it upon us.
They aren't even the mythical "left libertarian".
It is easy for that group because for the last 8 years they have had the executive branch. Now that the shoe is on the opposite foot, well... we are seeing what is starting to happen.
What do you see happening?
A list....I need a list!
General civil unrest, how's that for a list?
Pretty darn short.General civil unrest, how's that for a list?
I was thinking more about the direction of government.
Not about Trump's personal peccadilloes, but the ship
of state's policies & changes therein.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's my experience living in New York. I'm living in a state that is nationwide, the one with the least personal and economic freedom. I think California is at least on par with New York in that regard.
Both are dominantly bright blue democrat-liberal run States.
I can't stand it here whenever Liberals and Democrats here talk about the virtues of freedom and liberty and act as if they're the Vanguard at protecting those values. With the regulatory dystopia they've created, nothing could be further from the truth.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
BTW, some of us "lefties" are "left-libertarians" who often tend to have a different viewpoint with some other "lefties" on some issues. Also, much like there are "pseudo-conservatives" there are also "pseudo- liberals", both of which talk-the-talk but may not walk-the-walk.
Barry Goldwater, for example, was very upset with many self-proclaiming "conservatives" because he knew they only took their position to try and get out of paying taxes, thus having nothing to do with "state's rights" or other politically conservative issues.
IOW, we're always going to have a percent of people who take Position X only or primarily because it's self-serving.
Barry Goldwater, for example, was very upset with many self-proclaiming "conservatives" because he knew they only took their position to try and get out of paying taxes, thus having nothing to do with "state's rights" or other politically conservative issues.
IOW, we're always going to have a percent of people who take Position X only or primarily because it's self-serving.
PureX
Veteran Member
Government telling us what to do is not the problem. The problem is that our particular government has become catastrophically corrupt, and the strong arm for a very small, very powerful, corporate oligarchy.
Humans have long since understood that the establishment of government to coordinate social enterprise for the protection and well being of the society as a whole, is a very positive and effective idea. The problem has always been how to keep the power of this government entity from being corrupted by the desires of a few, to detriment of the many. I find it heartbreaking to see so many supposed adults, here, whining like little babies about how the government should not tell them what to do, when that is the government's purpose. How have they become THAT naive, selfish, and stupid???
Blaming liberals, and government intervention, is missing the point, and the problem, entirely. Because the problem is the corruption of our government through legalized corporate bribery. And until we face this simple fact of our own reality, we will never be able to correct it. And everything else is just spitting in the wind.
Humans have long since understood that the establishment of government to coordinate social enterprise for the protection and well being of the society as a whole, is a very positive and effective idea. The problem has always been how to keep the power of this government entity from being corrupted by the desires of a few, to detriment of the many. I find it heartbreaking to see so many supposed adults, here, whining like little babies about how the government should not tell them what to do, when that is the government's purpose. How have they become THAT naive, selfish, and stupid???
Blaming liberals, and government intervention, is missing the point, and the problem, entirely. Because the problem is the corruption of our government through legalized corporate bribery. And until we face this simple fact of our own reality, we will never be able to correct it. And everything else is just spitting in the wind.