Truth in love
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It is the supplying of pron in many cases and almost always offensive maternal to children that is the point.
Public libraries are funded by tax dollars so offended if the funding base does not go well.
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Library Idiocy
- Thread starter The Hammer
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It is the supplying of pron in many cases and almost always offensive maternal to children that is the point.
Public libraries are funded by tax dollars so offended if the funding base does not go well.
Subduction Zone
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So you have read these books? You know that they are pron<sic>?
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Experience is very much individual thing, obviously those people who voted to defund the library have very different experience than what's your experience,
and it seems like you neither feel nor respect their experience? because otherwise you wouldn't suggest experience to have the final word.
I think it's abusive because it encourages something which I find disgusting just like all those people who voted to defund the library.
Yes institutions are the ones who should make decisions, but oppression of majority is not really an argument unless minority is abused, which is not the case here.
I didn't say purpose of laws is to make us moral but rather that morality can't be excluded in decision making of laws.
Sand Dancer
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Our society is doomed.
Sand Dancer
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Don't like a book? Don't read it.
Sand Dancer
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Ever hear of romance novels?
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Sand Dancer
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How does a gay not be gay? You sound like being gay is a choice. They just want equality in society, just like heteros.
Sand Dancer
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It's obsolete because we learned more about it and realized it's not a mental illness.
Sand Dancer
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Even at my most conservative, when I was in the library, I would turn LGBT and LDS books around, but never in my wildest ideas would I decide to get rid of one. That's just messed up.
There's a difference between pornography and a book that mentions LGBT themes.
This:https://www.amazon.com/My-Two-Moms-..._5?keywords=my+two+moms&qid=1659894744&sr=8-5 or this: https://www.amazon.com/My-Two-Moms-..._1?keywords=my+two+moms&qid=1659894784&sr=8-1 are not pornography. Hustler or Playboy would be pornographic material.
There are probably many cheap romance novels(from a heterosexual point of view) within that library that would border on being pornographic. Do you think they'd kick up a stink about those, too?
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I see you did absolutely no research on the subject.
Subduction Zone
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Reading the article the problem appears to be partly on how the city funds itself. A council should not put almost everything out there for citizens to vote on. The people that run cities should have the training to know what projects need what funds. The average citizen will lack this knowledge. It appears that just one book was what raised the ire of the ignorant folks of that city. There have been quite a few lies told about the memoirs of a transwoman of how she grew up. We have seen false accusations here. Councilmen and councilwomen need to bite the bullet and decide what the city needs themselves. If they screw up then elections can correct that. But putting issues to the people that really have no clue as to what is needed and why will end in poorly quite often.
And I am not sure if that city has to shut down the library. Quite often issues are put in front of the public with the claim that "this bill funds this project" when in reality the city, county, or even state will have a general fund. Seattle does this quite often. They will find a service that they think is secure and base a tax increase on the service. I have a feeling that even if that tax increase failed they would not end that service.
I am not about to spend the time finding out if this city uses a general fund or not, but if they do they could keep the library going. They would just have to cut all services a small amount.
And I am not sure if that city has to shut down the library. Quite often issues are put in front of the public with the claim that "this bill funds this project" when in reality the city, county, or even state will have a general fund. Seattle does this quite often. They will find a service that they think is secure and base a tax increase on the service. I have a feeling that even if that tax increase failed they would not end that service.
I am not about to spend the time finding out if this city uses a general fund or not, but if they do they could keep the library going. They would just have to cut all services a small amount.
Sand Dancer
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The subject of LGBT? I have done lots of research.
Subduction Zone
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It has been quite a while since I did. I can't name anything from the distant past, but from my memory that poster was right. It is a natural part of life. You seem to disagree. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? If so please use valid science based sources. There may have been some new discoveries since I last looked into this. Otherwise I will simply go with what I know from the past is the decision of mental health professionals.
In other words, your claim, your burden of proof.
Subduction Zone
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You mean female porn?
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No not that, you said homosexuality is not diagnosis of mental disorder because it was "learned" it is not,
can you please enlighten me how it was learned? according to which psychiatric research was that learned?
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Getting a PDF copy seems difficult to find but if you find it somewhere search for code 302:
Sexual deviation is categorized as sociopathic personality disturbance:
What is SOCIOPATHIC PERSONALITY DISTURBANCE? (Psychology Dictionary)
The only reason it was removed is because of gay activists demanding it to be removed:
How LGBTQ+ Activists Got “Homosexuality” out of the DSM - JSTOR Daily
Yeah it is, just like the rest of sexual deviations.
I find lots of things disgusting that other people don't. I find eating jellyfish to be disgusting, but millions of Asians are fine with it. I don't demand they don't eat it in front of me. I just avoid it myself.
Are you sure? How about if we told the black community that books about them could not be included in the public library? Then why treat LGBTQ people differently? It is certainly abusive to be told that "books about your kind should not be seen by the public,"
Morality is excluded in all kinds of law-making. It pretty much never comes up when dealing with transportation infrastructure, for instance, or fiduciary laws for financial institutions.
But even where you think it ought to be included, be damned sure it is MORALITY you are talking about. You see, the law does not deem being gay to be immoral. So to include that consideration in laws would be nothing more than codifying some people's personal opinions. And that would make for very bad law, indeed.
Subduction Zone
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Really? I don't think that you read that article. I am sure that you did not understand it.
Secret Chief
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How much needs doing? Homosexuality is a natural and normal variation in human sexuality. This is based on scientific research.
- Homosexuality - Wikipedia