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Life From Dirt?

101G

101G

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Well let 101G break it down further for your understanding..... m=f ..... (smile)...... lol, lol, lol.

101G.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
gnostic said:
And that claims are perfect example as to why you are so poorly educated in biology.

Proteins or DNA/RNA, carbohydrates, lipids, by their individual selves are non-living matters!

This is failure of you and every single creationists cannot bloody grasp.

Proteins are “not living” matters...but they are “biological macromolecules” or organic compounds.

Nor are either nucleic acids - RNA & DNA are “not living” matters - however they are “biological macromolecules” or organic compounds.

The different types of carbohydrates, are by themselves are “not living” matters, but they are “biological macromolecules” or organic compounds.

And it is the same with the different types of lipids; they are non-living organic compounds.

What you called “living matters” are CELLS, URAVIP2ME. Cells!!!!

Cells are living matters.

Inside these cells are these essential biological macromolecules (proteins, DNA, RNA, complex carbohydrates & lipids) that organic in composition and in nature, but are only considered “living” when they are INSIDE the cellular wall or membrane. These macromolecules provide functionalities to living cells.

So I like to stress that each of these biological macromolecules are themselves, especially proteins and nucleic acids, are made of other “organic”, but otherwise “non-living” compounds.

For instance, each protein is made of sequence of amino acids. Amino acids are made of non-living organic compounds, and when they sequenced together in a biopolymer, they are make up certain types of proteins.

Another example, DNA is made of three different components of organic compounds or molecules that form the nucleotide. The components of nucleotide -
  • pentose sugar or 5-carbon sugar component that are backbone of nucleotide -
    • ribose sugar for RNA
    • deoxyribose sugar for DNA;
  • phosphate component -
    • AMP (adenosine monophosphate)
    • ADP (adenosine diphosphate)
    • ATP (adenosine triphosphate);
  • 4 nitrogenous components or 4 nucleobase compounds -
    • adenine
    • cytosine
    • guanine
    • & either thymine for DNA or uracil for RNA
These are all organic compounds that are non-living, but each of them provide functionalities that make each “cell”, “living”.
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Thank you for your reply. Yes, in those all organic compounds are non-living, but how do they provide functions that make each 'cell' living
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
101G said:
agreed. this world is coming to an end.101G.
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Recently a person from an AA group said the world is becoming increasingly divided.
That made me think that there is a coming 'time of dividing' as in a separation as brought out at Matt. 25:31-34,37
So, how is this world coming to an end. What is the signal.
I find at 1st Thess. 5:2-3 the ' final signal', so to speak, is that there will be people in charge who will be saying," Peace and Security" / "Peace and Safety" but that Rosy saying could lead many people down that Primrose Path because that saying of Peace is really going to prove to be the precursor to the coming Great Tribulation of Rev. 7:14.
Those separated as being the figurative ' sheep ' will be kept safe - Isaiah 26:20
Kept safe to be here and see the beginning of Jesus' governing over Earth for a thousand years. - 1st Cor. 15:24-26
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
TagliatelliMonster said:
Classic teleological fallacy.
"look at how this universe is great for us to live in, surely it was made specifically for us!"
Now imagine 2 frogs by a random pond saying the same thing about said pond.
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Seems without us humans, the 2 frogs along with all the other animals would make Earth to be a Zoo.
Everything is here to support life for the 2 frogs and all other living matter and animals along with us late comers.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yazata said:
I don't think that anyone has proposed that "life sprang from dirt". It probably didn't spring forth at all, but rather appeared as the result of a whole succession of steps. Many of those steps probably involved the formation of a whole assortment of organic precursers.
But bottom line is that nobody currently knows how it happened..............
The trouble that I have with the "God theory" is that saying that life just appeared magically: "Poof! And there it was!" isn't really an informative explanation at all. We still have the problem of the nature of the magic, along with a whole new mystery to be explained and understood: God.
Compounding mysteries doesn't explain them.
Of course that observation isn't really an argument against God's existence or even God's involvement in biogenesis, neither of which depend on our ability to explain things informatively. It just explains my own reservations with the divine creation hypothesis.
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Genesis does Not just say, "poof! there is life "
First, the Great Potter (aka God) took the time to form or fashion the already existing clay (dirt) then, after forming or fashioning Adam, then God ' breathed the breath of life ' into lifeless clay/dirt Adam. - Gen. 2:7
God used His Power, His Strength - Psalm 104:30; Isaiah 40:26 - to breathe life into life-less Adam thus animating formed Adam.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Apostle John said:
Yes, possibilities: the imagination of man runs wild. Some think a massive explosion that they name the Big Bang actually created something. Have you seen an explosion create something? :oops:
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The ^ above ^ makes the Big Bang sound like people think of the Big Bang as the Big Bomb. I don't.
There is No organizing after a Big Bomb, but what is just simply named as the Big Bang is: all about organization.
There have been contests to come up with another word or wording for the Big Bang, but thus far no one has come up with any other name.
 
Heyo

Heyo

Veteran Member
Apostle John said:
So demonstrate it then. I for one would like to see atoms magically make themselves. And while you’re trying to confirm you’re not speaking babble also demonstrate the evolution theory by putting two couples of apes under the kind of stressed conditions in the field to show they can form a new species through their progeny.
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Apes have very long reproduction cycles. It would take centuries or millennia to see differences. But R. Lensky showed it with bacteria: E. coli long-term evolution experiment - Wikipedia.
And, depending on your species definition, dog and rabbit breeders have done it with mammals.
 
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