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life in prison and the death penalty

We Never Know

No Slack
How quickly? Do you want to start denying appeals to save money.

Yes you are correct. The quicker the cheaper. But the cheaper the more likely the possibility of error. How cheap do you want it to be?

Let me tell you a true story.
There is a guy(he's was 29 at the time) in a nieghbouring community who in 2016 raped/sodomized a 12 year old girl and while doing so held a knife to her throat.
He did the same thing in 2018.
He is rich and his lawyer keeps getting the trials postponed, the last 6 times(3 on each). Next trial date for one is February 8th, 2022 and the other is March 22nd, 2022.

Its BS. If either of these had been my daughter, and it was up to me, the person would have already met jesus or the devil if they exist.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
If there is not doubt such as DNA, witness's, video, etc I'm for the death penalty. Why should the person become a burden of the state and a burden of the taxpayers.

I myself if I had a choice of life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty, just kill me. Why would I want to be locked up in a cage like an animal, told what to do and when to do it, be a burden to the state, a burden to the tax payers, a burden to my family(they would have to always come see you), etc.

Lets say you are 42 years old. What would you choose if it was life in prison without parole or death?
Definitely life in prison. In Sweden our prisons are better than some hotels. And you have access to books, cable, computers. I really do not need much more than that.

Of course, I might change my opinion if I lived in a country with the death penalty, since they tend to be countries with a retributive system (vs a rehabilitative one), and therefore their prisons also tend to be medieval.

Probably the best is like in Norway. Prisons look even better, and there is no life sentence (20 years is the absolute maximum). Even that right wing terrorist who killed 77 young people there in 2011 did not get more than that.


Ciao

- viole
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Advantages of life in prison over execution in Ameristan....
- It's crueler.
- It's cheaper.
- It's reversible.

On that last one, it provides the ability to end punishment
when convictions are discovered to have been flawed.
DNA evidence isn't perfect. Witnesses are unreliable &
even dishonest. Judges can be incompetent. Juries are
just random people of dubious ability. Prosecutors can
be crooked. Defense lawyers can be incompetent.

My authority?
I've been juror, defendant, plaintiff, & interested observer.
I know lawyers, judges, prosecutors, & ex-cons.
 
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