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Lincoln Project Admits it Sent Fake White Nationalists to Republican Rally

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Just one black guy in the photo.
And white nationalism knows no gender.

White nationalism is over 80% male and notoriously antifeminist. Even female figurehead of the movement have complained about the sexism of their followers on several occasion. In effect, white nationalism does know a gender and espouse heavily patriarchal politics. The hatred of feminity and the embrass of violent masculinity is even one of the defining characteristics of those movements. Then again, bigotry is highly comorbid with other forms of bigotry and prejudices.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
This has already been covered
"In April 2020, the committee announced its endorsement of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.[5]"
The Lincoln Project - Wikipedia

A pro- republican organization that backs a democrat for president?

In French we call those ''querelle de cloché'' which would roughly translate to ''pew dispute''; in other words a group that shares the same alliegence who get involved in a fierce dispute over mostly small details, but that still throws a community in disarray. Yes, the Lincoln Project supported Democrats, but only because they hated Trump more. They believe his influence would sink the Republican Party in the medium long term and lead a durable shift in politics away from it. They viewed Trump and his reactionary base as a bigger danger for conservatives in the US than the liberal themselves.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
White nationalism is over 80% male and notoriously antifeminist.
That would leave 20% non-male...likely female.
(I presume that white nationalists aren't gender fluid.)
Note that many women aren't feminists.
Even anti-abortion rights.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
That would leave 20% non-male...likely female.
(I presume that white nationalists aren't gender fluid.)
Note that many women aren't feminists.
Even anti-abortion rights.

Since white nationalism is repulsing women in drove, treats poorly women within the movement and is opposed to women as a class of people, they can be described as a masculine movement accurately. The fact that some women believe that by sucking up to white nationalism will afford them protection from their predation and insure them a safe ''second place'' doesn't make the movement more opposed to women as a class of people nor less repulsive to women in general due to that sad fact. It takes a special case of anxious people or grifters to settle for oppression in the hope that the oppression won't be as bad as it is for others.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Since white nationalism is repulsing women in drove, treats poorly women within the movement and is opposed to women as a class of people, they can be described as a masculine movement accurately. The fact that some women believe that by sucking up to white nationalism will afford them protection from their predation and insure them a safe ''second place'' doesn't make the movement more opposed to women as a class of people nor less repulsive to women in general due to that sad fact. It takes a special case of anxious people or grifters to settle for oppression in the hope that the oppression won't be as bad as it is for others.
This is still no argument that we wouldn't see female
white nationalists. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see
some blacks supporting racial separatism.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member

Bodie

Member
Yes, they can. Trump may have run as a Republican but he is arguably destroying the party.

Maybe they knew the Biden regime will destroy the democratic parties chances of winning in 2024, from MSNBC no less.

"How the Democrats put Republicans in the enviable position of having to do nothing at all."
Virginia election spotlights Biden's flailing party

Newsweek:
"President Joe Biden's approval rating continued to decline as 71 percent of Americans believe the United States is on the wrong track, according to the latest NBC News poll released Sunday."
71 Percent of Americans Say U.S. Is Going in Wrong Direction as Biden's Job Rating Dips: Poll
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
This is still no argument that we wouldn't see female
white nationalists.

Indeed, but it's not because a group has women in it that it ''knows no gender'' or in other words, attract women as much as men and consider male supporters just as valuable as female supporters. That's clearly not the case with white supremacist group. That's the point I was making.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Indeed, but it's not because a group has women in it that it ''knows no gender'' or in other words, attract women as much as men and consider male supporters just as valuable as female supporters. That's clearly not the case with white supremacist group. That's the point I was making.
Sounds like quibbling, ie, not really arguing
against the appearance of a female in the
group meaning certainly a parody/satire.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Maybe they knew the Biden regime will destroy the democratic parties chances of winning in 2024, from MSNBC no less.

"How the Democrats put Republicans in the enviable position of having to do nothing at all."
Virginia election spotlights Biden's flailing party

Newsweek:
"President Joe Biden's approval rating continued to decline as 71 percent of Americans believe the United States is on the wrong track, according to the latest NBC News poll released Sunday."
71 Percent of Americans Say U.S. Is Going in Wrong Direction as Biden's Job Rating Dips: Poll
And how is this supposed to help you?
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Sounds like quibbling, ie, not really arguing
against the appearance of a female in the
group meaning certainly a parody/satire.

If you have both a member of an ethnic minority and a women in a very small group of ''white nationalists'', yes it should raise question about the potential of parody. It's not a certainty, but I would find it personnaly suspicious. Though white nationalists enjoy tokenism and use it as the flimsiest of all shield, it would be odd that in a very small ''sample'' several uncommon characters find themselves simultaneously. Then again, I am a fairly critical person and many are extremely guillible and know next to nothing about white nationalists in the first place.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Considering all the supposed "White supremacists" that are around every corner, under every bed nibbling at ones toes, and coming for your children one would not think it necessary to invent them. This playacting with social and political fire is disingenuous, divisive, and undermines democracy, shame on them.

"The anti-Republican political action committee The Lincoln Project claimed responsibility Friday for a stunt in which activists dressed up as tiki torch-carrying white nationalists in a bid to link Virginia GOP gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin to racist views."


Lincoln Project claims responsibility for fake ‘white supremacists’ at Glenn Youngkin event
"The Lincoln Project sent a group posing as white supremacists with tiki torches to a GOP campaign event in Virginia ahead of the state's gubernatorial election"

Lincoln Project Sends Fake White Supremacists to Virginia GOP Event

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"The Lincoln Project is an American political action committee (PAC) formed in late 2019 by former and present Republicans. During the 2020 presidential election, it aimed to prevent the re-election of Donald Trump and defeat all Republicans in close races running for re-election in the United States Senate."

The Lincoln Project - Wikipedia.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
That would leave 20% non-male...likely female.
(I presume that white nationalists aren't gender fluid.)
Note that many women aren't feminists.
Even anti-abortion rights.
And there were Jews who supported Hitler. Hell there was even a Gay Nazi before the night of the long knives. Fascist regimes always have some minorities supporting them. Until they outlive their usefulness and get killed as a result. That women support such causes doesn’t really mean that much. Other than some women are either highly conservative or feel that they would be safe if they sucked up to them. History says that’s not going to happen. Because they are always the first on the chopping blocks. But humans are dumb. Meh
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That women support such causes doesn’t really mean that much.
But it does mean that the appearance of one at the
demonstration would not be a signal of parody.
Other than some women are either highly conservative or feel that they would be safe if they sucked up to them. History says that’s not going to happen. Because they are always the first on the chopping blocks.
You think Nazis killed off women who joined?
Nah.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
But it does mean that the appearance of one at the
demonstration would not be a signal of parody.

Perhaps. Your Trump core base has always appeared to me to be fascist in nature. Sorry not sorry. I’m not saying all Trump supporters are like that or supported fascism of course. I’m taking about the ones who recognised the “dog whistles.”
Maybe they aren’t all white supremacists, I can’t personally know that for certain. But being a perpetually online nerd, I actually saw legitimate live streamed footage of the Insurrection in real time. Recorded by the very people storming the Capitol. Many involved I recognised as belonging to various white supremacist groups of varying ideologies. Though their previous videos and online personalities. And if I’m not mistaken the token POC Proud Boy leader.
I won’t pretend to be knowledgeable about the Lincoln Project. Nor am I suggesting that literally all involved in the Insurrection attempt are literal white supremacists. Just that that is some of the company they keep.

You think Nazis killed off women who joined?
Nah.
I was referring to the Jews and Ernst Rohm. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that. Women suffered under the Third Reich in other ways. Having their rights stripped away and promises of socialist reforms dangled in front of them that were never fulfilled.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
How generous of you.
But I am too.
Not all Democrats are communists.
Your Democrats are barely left leaning according to most other political spectrums. Hell your actual leftists often decry the Dems as nothing but centrists. Which is kind of interesting
 
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