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Little confused...Are Jews allowed to drink alcohol or is it a sin?

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
yes, but i was answering the other person and I don't see what he believes in so didn't know so I just posted what I did :)
Okay. Not sure how that matters because you asked about what the Jewish view is and she brought what she thought was evidence for that. But sure.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
I also am wondering why all of the men wear that white shirt with the strings that hang down? Can you tell me the significance? I see all the religious ones wearing that. Also see most of them just wearing black and white all the time. And can you tell me about the curls on the side of the face and what does that symbolize?
It's not all of the men that wear black and white clothing. Just the majority of the Ultra Orthodox, also called Charedim. Why? The main emphasis is the black, because it reflects modesty, symbolizes mourning over the destruction of the Temple, as well as a few other reasons. White might symbolize other things, but I think it mostly became fashionable because it was thought to go better with black.
The side curls are grown by all Orthodox Jews, at varying lengths. This is because there is a Torah prohibition of cutting off that hair. Interestingly, part of the reasoning may have been because the Arab neighbors of the Israelites had a custom to shave off that part of their hair, as attested by multiple sources.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
It's not all of the men that wear black and white clothing. Just the majority of the Ultra Orthodox, also called Charedim. Why? The main emphasis is the black, because it reflects modesty, symbolizes mourning over the destruction of the Temple, as well as a few other reasons. White might symbolize other things, but I think it mostly became fashionable because it was thought to go better with black.
The side curls are grown by all Orthodox Jews, at varying lengths. This is because there is a Torah prohibition of cutting off that hair. Interestingly, part of the reasoning may have been because the Arab neighbors of the Israelites had a custom to shave off that part of their hair, as attested by multiple sources.


I'm just intrigued is all. This schnitzel program is showing things I was curious about before and I just never asked anyone tbh. Now I have yall to ask to :)

the strings though what are they for? is it like a vest thing they put over a shirt? or is it just a shirt? does it signify anythin?
 

GardenLady

Active Member
Perhaps you might want to read more about this sci-fi/comedy about an alien who takes the form of a schnitzel in an Israeli market.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm just intrigued is all. This schnitzel program is showing things I was curious about before and I just never asked anyone tbh. Now I have yall to ask to :)

the strings though what are they for? is it like a vest thing they put over a shirt? or is it just a shirt? does it signify anythin?
I also wear strings, as do most Orthodox Jews as well as many Jews from other denominations. There is a Torah commandment to tie strings onto the corners of four-cornered garments. One does not have to wear such a garment, but if one does, it has to have the strings, which are called in Hebrew tzitzit or tzitziyot. Over the generations, it became customary for most Jews to wear such tzitzit every day. Here is what it looks like:
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Typically worn under the shirt, sometimes over an undershirt (whatever the wearer prefers), but there are those that wear it over the shirt (again, usually personal preference, although I'm sure that some sub-denominations have a specific custom to wear it like that). The strings are specially knotted per different traditions of different Jewish communities.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
I also wear strings, as do most Orthodox Jews as well as many Jews from other denominations. There is a Torah commandment to tie strings onto the corners of four-cornered garments. One does not have to wear such a garment, but if one does, it has to have the strings, which are called in Hebrew tzitzit or tzitziyot. Over the generations, it became customary for most Jews to wear such tzitzit every day. Here is what it looks like:
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Typically worn under the shirt, sometimes over an undershirt (whatever the wearer prefers), but there are those that wear it over the shirt (again, usually personal preference, although I'm sure that some sub-denominations have a specific custom to wear it like that). The strings are specially knotted per different traditions of different Jewish communities.

okies thanks :)

is it applied only for men?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Traditionally it is, but in recent decades, some denominations have also allowed women to wear them.


can i ask another question. I also saw another Jewish program where a girl was getting ready for marriage. I can't remember the name of it. But I do think it is on netflix as well. Ugh can't remember. But she was a lovely girl and learning about marriage n all. Her mother was I think German and she "escaped" or somethin...can't exactly remember. But anyways, I was wondering why before she got married, they shaved her head and then applied a wig?

I just googled it and it is called UNORTHODOX :)
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
That's strange though to me because there are places in the Bible that says do not.

Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

“Then the LORD said to Aaron: ‘You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You must distinguish between the holy and the profane, between the unclean and the clean.’” Leviticus 10:8-10

“But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, and idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard of a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.” 1 Corinthians 5:11

“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10



“Do not get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.” Ephesians 5:18

there are places that say yes and then there are places that says no and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.

You are quoting mostly the New Testament, which the Jews don't use as scripture.
 

GardenLady

Active Member
not really am being sincere here.o_O

Then perhaps that movie is not your best source for information about Jewish practices and traditions. You have likely observed that there is great variation in the practices and traditions of people of various Christian denominations. The same is true of Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and other groups of Jewish people.
 

GardenLady

Active Member
Traditionally it is, but in recent decades, some denominations have also allowed women to wear them.

Harel, I have also known a woman who wore a kippah, which is something I had not previously seen. She was a member of a Conservative congregation.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
can i ask another question. I also saw another Jewish program where a girl was getting ready for marriage. I can't remember the name of it. But I do think it is on netflix as well. Ugh can't remember. But she was a lovely girl and learning about marriage n all. Her mother was I think German and she "escaped" or somethin...can't exactly remember. But anyways, I was wondering why before she got married, they shaved her head and then applied a wig?

I just googled it and it is called UNORTHODOX :)
It was customary among some Jewish communities in Europe. And still is by some modern Jewish communities. There are a number of reasons. One is related to problems that may stem from the hair during the purification process after the menstrual cycle, another is due to modesty, and there are other reasons.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Then perhaps that movie is not your best source for information about Jewish practices and traditions. You have likely observed that there is great variation in the practices and traditions of people of various Christian denominations. The same is true of Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and other groups of Jewish people.


ummm duh is why I'm asking questions:confused:
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Harel, I have also known a woman who wore a kippah, which is something I had not previously seen. She was a member of a Conservative congregation.
Yes, I am aware of this. She didn't ask about kippot, though. :cool:
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Some Jews and Christians are teatotal, some are not.
It is not a religious thing.

Some denominations have been teatotal since their foundation. But it is not a requirement of Christianity, nor for Jews.
 
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