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Little confused...Are Jews allowed to drink alcohol or is it a sin?

MyM

Well-Known Member
It was customary among some Jewish communities in Europe. And still is by some modern Jewish communities. There are a number of reasons. One is related to problems that may stem from the hair during the purification process after the menstrual cycle, another is due to modesty, and there are other reasons.

thanks...was wondering if they get punished if they don't wear the wigs...(in the ultra orthodox way)
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Not that I've never seen a Jewish person drunk. I've even seen Baptists drunk. And Catholics...
You never saw me in college?

Note: being a Jew is not the same as practicing the religion of Judaism. And the range of those practing Judaism is as wide as the Pacific Ocean (reconstructionist to orthodox).
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
thanks...was wondering if they get punished if they don't wear the wigs...(in the ultra orthodox way)
Modern Jewish don't really have the power to punish anyone. But refusal to meet the standard dress code will likely result in one being shunned by the community.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Modern Jewish don't really have the power to punish anyone. But refusal to meet the standard dress code will likely result in one being shunned by the community.

ohh I see. I saw a documentary about that one time...a girl was being interviewed and had to secretly have someone help her to escape and she went to court or something to save her kids from being taken away and all the men went and suffice it to say, they won. She didn't have a chance.

ok I have another question lol if you don't mind. :) sorry for the questions, but I am genuinely interested :) I actually spoke with a few rabbis online for a few things when I was searching into religions.

I saw the Jazz Singer and have to say that was one of my favorite films growin up. I don't know if you ever saw it or not, but Neil Diamond was the Jew and he was the cantor. His father shunned him for his son wanting to make a singing career. I am wondering, if this was a religious shun or a personal shun because he wanted to be different and have a singing career. (in the end they made up but was wondering if it had anything to do with laws of judaism?)
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Modern Jewish don't really have the power to punish anyone. But refusal to meet the standard dress code will likely result in one being shunned by the community.

does that mean even in supermarkets where they buy food n stuff in the community or just on a person to people situation?
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Personal. There are very few cases of communal/religious shunning, and they are usually as ther esult of a very specific and particular behavior.

There are communities which will "shun" in a group way but these are extensions of personal attitude, not applications of religious law.
 

GardenLady

Active Member
ummm duh is why I'm asking questions:confused:

Based only on my own limited experience, I would say that asking broad questions about what Jewish people do is analogous to asking a broad question about what Christians do. If one were to review the practices and beliefs of Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist, Assemblies of God, Pentecostal, and the many sub-groups within each of those, one would get very different answers.

Please note, my intention is not to be snarky, but only to say that the Netflix movie or broad questions about what Jews practice or believe aren't likely to give you the depth of information you are seeking.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Based only on my own limited experience, I would say that asking broad questions about what Jewish people do is analogous to asking a broad question about what Christians do. If one were to review the practices and beliefs of Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Episcopal, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist, Assemblies of God, Pentecostal, and the many sub-groups within each of those, one would get very different answers.

I am a self learner, I love to learn and the more I learn, the more my I can see a better picture of things and apply them. There is nothing wrong with asking genuine questions and being that I am not a Christian anymore, but a Muslim, I want to know more about Judaism and would rather learn from a Jew or more than one, about their religion. I learned a few basic tenants about Judaism speaking with rabbis, but sometimes that isn't enough for my inquistiveness lol . I am just an eager learner.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Personal. There are very few cases of communal/religious shunning, and they are usually as ther esult of a very specific and particular behavior.

There are communities which will "shun" in a group way but these are extensions of personal attitude, not applications of religious law.

In this one documentary, this orthhodox jew used to get drunk and hurt her and that is why I am curious. Am also curious if the jews in that film, knew the judge in that community. Maybe he was a jew as well. Was a sad documentary. I did see it over about maybe 5-7 years ago. I think it could be less
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
ohh I see. I saw a documentary about that one time...a girl was being interviewed and had to secretly have someone help her to escape and she went to court or something to save her kids from being taken away and all the men went and suffice it to say, they won. She didn't have a chance.

ok I have another question lol if you don't mind. :) sorry for the questions, but I am genuinely interested :) I actually spoke with a few rabbis online for a few things when I was searching into religions.

I saw the Jazz Singer and have to say that was one of my favorite films growin up. I don't know if you ever saw it or not, but Neil Diamond was the Jew and he was the cantor. His father shunned him for his son wanting to make a singing career. I am wondering, if this was a religious shun or a personal shun because he wanted to be different and have a singing career. (in the end they made up but was wondering if it had anything to do with laws of judaism?)
I haven't seen it, so I can't really say, but the only problem religious-wise that I recall with having a singing career is singing inappropriate songs or singing with women (if you're a man).
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
does that mean even in supermarkets where they buy food n stuff in the community or just on a person to people situation?
It really depends on whether you're caught. If you can hide that you are doing something not acceptable by the local standards then you won't be kicked out, obviously. Doesn't matter what the situation is exactly.
 

GardenLady

Active Member
There is nothing wrong with asking genuine questions

I totally agree but just wanted to point out that there is enormous variation in Jewish beliefs and practices, as there is in the practice of many other faiths. So the answer to "What do Jewish people believe/do?" is "Which ones?" But no, nothing wrong with asking questions!
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
I haven't seen it, so I can't really say, but the only problem religious-wise that I recall with having a singing career is singing inappropriate songs or singing with women (if you're a man).

ok thanks ..Laurence Olivier played the father. Maybe it was just a personal thing and he was upset he wanted to leave it.

ok thanks for answerin my questions, if I have more, I will ask later on. I have to teach in the mornin and it is now almost 1am.

really appreciate it....although I may sound tough and strong sometimes and too forward, my heart is wanting the best for everyone :)
 
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