I found the post thoughtful, guess others see conflict where they want to.
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I agree. I also believe any law they pass, they have to abide by.
Also the Russian sanctions might pose some friction that we would be wise to pay attention to.
That's unfair!
Aye, we're poking the hornet's nest with dubious benefit but great risk.
I have been waiting for the perfect time to use my perfect rebuttal. Don't even bother replying. It is irrefutable. Are you ready?
NU-UH!
I slink away in utter defeat.
UpperLimits
Active Member
Oddly, there are times when Russia is looking more and more like a looming bastion of freedom when compared to the west.
I'm not really sure how democrats think the Russians could "rig" an American election. Sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me. Oh sure, they could have flooded the internet with so called "fake news" (ie anything that disagree with the agenda of the democrats.) But we know from reports surrounding the election that advance polls in Texas had electronic voting machines switching votes to Clinton; Polls in Pennsylvania were shut down on voting day for the same reason; In Florida, 37% more people voted for Democrats than were registered in the county, etc, etc. If there was any meddling at all in that election, I. for one, would certainly be pointing my finger in another direction other than Putin.
But the bottom line is this: It was Americans themselves who went into the polling stations and said "We've had enough of this progressive, globalist c***:: Give us Trump." And since then democrats have not ceased to attempt to stone wall their government at every opportunity - even when it goes against the better interest of the people.
The thing that gets me is that it was Americans themselves who - knowing the rules of the election game - put Trump into power. Russia had no control in the voting booth.
I'm curious about something: If you really want to believe that the Russians did it with "fake news," then what does this say about what democrats believe concerning the general intelligence of the American populace?
One only need to take a look at the news reels from a few months back to be reminded of their answer....
Why is it so difficult for some Trump supporters to face the fact that Trump lost the popular election. The people voted for Clinton by a margin of millions.
Tom
LOL, A bromance with a foreign adversary is not treason. Emails...mishandling emails is where I heard a lot of those folks yelling treason.
Was it the Russians recent criminalizing of proselytizing? Real hopes for freedom that.
It seems that his supporters have no trouble facing his losing the popular vote.
They take solace in his winning the election & becoming Prez.
If they aren't complaining about losing the popular vote due to the illegals. I think Trump is hurt more about that than his supporters, his ego thing.
Show me where in this post you see even recognition that the American voters chose Hillary by millions.
I hear this quite frequently. It isn't just him.
Tom
The magical volleyball
Member
If you think russia is a "bastion of freedom" then you should be deemed too stupid to vote.
Our 1st amendment provides for Americans to have the right to free speech, free press, free religion and freedom to protest. NONE OF THIS EXISTS IN RUSSIA.
Those who speak too loudly against Putin or organize too many people against him are thrown in jail. The media in Russia is controlled by the government. And every non Christian religion is attacked by the government. It is actually easier to be an atheist in Russia than a Muslim.
Perhaps the real problem is that you don't want true freedom for everyone, but instead you want white Christian tyranny that calls itself freedom.
As for russia affecting the election. I truly don't know how much affect they had. I do know that they hacked both the dnc and the rnc but only leaked the information from the dnc. They hacked into voting systems in 39 states. They implemented millions of online bots to spread fake news stories against Hillary Clinton, which was then parroted by fake news organizations like Alex Jones, breitbart news, and fox news. Also it's important to remember Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes and she only lost Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin by a total of 100,000 votes.
You also claim that democrats think trump supporters are stupid this is not true. I believe trump supporters simply represent the number of Americans who are easily duped by con men and will support whichever candidate that hates the same people as them. Why else would they vote for someone who gave zero policy detail and felt the need to nickname his oppenents Lyin ted and crooked Hillary.
The magical volleyball
Member
Your 401k is doing great because of what Obama did for 8 yrs and because businesses have decided to ignore trump.
Don't forget it took bush jr. 7 years to blow up everyones 401k. Just because trump hasn't destroyed it yet doesn't mean he's not working on it. Give it time. 9 of the last 10 Republican presidents have left the country in a recession. Why do you think trump will be different than any of them?
I don't hear much complaining from any Trump fans about illegals voting.
When one wins, such details don't matter much.
Exactly!