Losing faith in God

[The Hammer]

That’s the way a lot of Christian’s see things I guess now. Wonder what there version of heaven looks like.

Probably hasn't changed much. I see no reason it should have to?

Personally, I see more than One signature on Creation, but that's me.

 

[Jimmy]

Probably hasn't changed much. I see no reason it should have to?

Personally, I see more than One signature on Creation, but that's me.

If they feel it doesn’t have to then it doesn’t have to.

 

[The Hammer]

If they feel it doesn’t have to then it doesn’t have to.

Mmk

 

[Jimmy]

Mmk

It is what it is

 

[Heyo]

Anyone here believe god is the creator of all things? Or have most religious people become followers of abiogenesis at this point?

All theists believe in magic. They just don't agree on what magic.
Some people have realized that the gaps they could find magic in and accept reality are being closed by science. To keep their belief in a deity, they become deists.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

About the thread’s title @Moon,
Do you feel yourself losing faith …or are you concerned that others “are losing” your type of faith …or that you cannot find people who share your exact beliefs?


Humbly,
Hermit

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Think about it. What does that look like? Being reunited with a deceased loved one? Where would abiogenesis, evolution , science, Big Bang, and an existence that has always been here and always will be fit in to that hope? It doesn’t. Just a thought

I fully accept that death = game over.
I fully accept that the only place where I'll "see" deceased loved ones is in my memories of them and on old photo's and video's (if available).

Death is a fact of life.

You seem to be trying to make an emotional plea here.

 

[danieldemol]

Think about it. What does that look like? Being reunited with a deceased loved one? Where would abiogenesis, evolution , science, Big Bang, and an existence that has always been here and always will be fit in to that hope? It doesn’t. Just a thought

It depends on how you envision being reunited with them.
If you envision being reunited in physical bodies it may not make sense, but if you envision being reunited in the spirit realm there is no reason the material realm couldn't have always been around if God only intervenes in the spirit realm in my view.

In my opinion.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yup that’s why I’m asking. Seems like no one believes god is the creator anymore

Just stay out of my faith in how God is.

 

[1213]

Anyone here believe god is the creator of all things? Or have most religious people become followers of abiogenesis at this point?

I believe God has created things as told in the Bible.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Think about it. What does that look like? Being reunited with a deceased loved one? Where would abiogenesis, evolution , science, Big Bang, and an existence that has always been here and always will be fit in to that hope? It doesn’t. Just a thought

You assume such a reunion takes place in pragmatic reality.

 

[viole]

Not really talking about evolution anyway. I’m talking about existence itself really.

well, if god exists, and She has not been created, then we can conclude that existence does not necessitate creation. unless we make an exception for a creator, which would kill the entire argument on account of circular reasoning, special pleading, which are the fundaments of any argument for the existence of God.

ciao

- viole

 

[osgart]

Well abiogenesis must have happened, but that doesn't rule out intelligence playing a role there. Making a God connection is a huge jump. I started out early with the God concept but it never lead to anything meaningful.

 

[Jimmy]

well, if god exists, and She has not been created, then we can conclude that existence does not necessitate creation. unless we make an exception for a creator, which would kill the entire argument on account of circular reasoning, special pleading, which are the fundaments of any argument for the existence of God.

ciao

- viole

You've forgotten one key thing. The destruction of existence. God is needed for both

 

[Jimmy]

well, if god exists, and She has not been created, then we can conclude that existence does not necessitate creation. unless we make an exception for a creator, which would kill the entire argument on account of circular reasoning, special pleading, which are the fundaments of any argument for the existence of God.

ciao

- viole

Existence is god as far as I’m concerned

 

[Twilight Hue]

I suppose I could tell you a line of bulls@$t and say I have hope that I’ll see my loved ones again, oh and by the way I believe evolution actually took place. Think about it folks!

Deceased loved ones really don't go away. Just their atoms are all over the place waiting for future bonding into more loved ones!

I miss the form but it's comforting to know they are still around.

 

[viole]

You've forgotten one key thing. The destruction of existence. God is needed for both

Is it. If I want to destroy the life of an ant, do I need God?

Ciao

- viole

 

[viole]

Existence is god as far as I’m concerned

which would entail that the existence of things like children cancer is, in fact, God Herself. Right?

and is “as far as I am concerned” something of any logical value? or something compelling, in any way or form?

ciao

- viole

 

[metis]

Yup that’s why I’m asking. Seems like no one believes god is the creator anymore

How are you defining "god" in this context?

 

[Jimmy]

Is it. If I want to destroy the life of an ant, do I need God?

Ciao

- viole

All of existence is different than than an ants