Louisiana Law To Ban Sex With Animals

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It's Louisiana, so no telling...

It could be that it's same sex couples with animals Louisiana is trying to prevent- since sodomy is so bad and all. Same sex couples plus animals has to be like a double triple crime against nature.

But is it still bestiality if the animal is dead?

 

[David1967]

Yeah....and 10 didn't approve it!

(Of course, maybe the writers of that bill added other things to it as is done a lot, that could be it.... I hope.)

Louisiana may have some very strange hybrids walking around down there. You ever see Goatboy from Saturday night live? Perhaps he was a Louisiana native. Bet that is a strange family reunion.

 

[suncowiam]

I hope that was not for real. Where did this notion come from? Monkey is most disconcerted!

Shouldn't that be, animals have properties ...

Are you kidding me?

 

[suncowiam]

I didn't mean to suggest you did. Sorry if it came out that way. What I did mean is:

If we are talking about individual decisions, I actually think eating meat is unethical for the vast majority of people. Who are, like you said, doing it for personal pleasure regardless of the unnecessary suffering it causes. But talking about setting ethical policy, I think that it would be easier and more cost effective to get rid of things like bestiality or animal abuse before the meat industry as a whole, which has much more involvement with jobs and communities which rely on them, industry that uses animal product which is part of everyday modern living, economy (import/export), providing balanced nutrition to those without access to a purely vegetaian diet, etc.

In other words, even though I don't personally approve of meat eating, I can't justify that the circumstances which allow meat eating and bestiality are equivocal. The wrong of meat eating in my view doesn't make the right of bestiality.

Fair enough... Those are your beliefs and generally not society's concerning meat eating.

Generally, I expect everyone that believes against cruelty to animals should not be killing and/or eating them too. It's contradictory.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Are you kidding me?

I don't know. Are you saying that animals in general are the property of humans?

 

[suncowiam]

I don't know. Are you saying that animals in general are the property of humans?

Legally yes. Some animals are legally properties of humans. Cows and chickens are bread and SOLD in marketplaces to other humans. Dogs and cats are bred and SOLD to other humans.

What do you think will happen if I visibly took my neighbor's dog and placed him inside my house. There's a term for that and it's called stealing. Stealing is a reference to ownership.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Legally yes. Some animals are legally properties of humans. Cows and chickens are bread and SOLD in marketplaces to other humans. Dogs and cats are bred and SOLD to other humans.

What do you think will happen if I visibly took my neighbor's dog and placed him inside my house. There's a term for that and it's called stealing. Stealing is a reference to ownership.

Some animals might be seen as such, but the vast majority?

 

[Shaul]

Sure we can.

We can whip horses in horse races.

Make them pull sleds through heavy snow and bitter cold for 1,000+ miles, for anywhere from 8 to 32 days. (Talking about the Iditarod race.)

Turn them into beasts of burden, making them pull wagons other vehicles, and carry heavy loads for hundreds of miles,​

Think if they had a choice any of them would agree to do these things?
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You mean if pigs could fly?

Man has a right to use animals but not abuse them. You do know there are laws against animal cruelty, right?

 

[Mock Turtle]

You mean if pigs could fly?

Man has a right to use animals but not abuse them. You do know there are laws against animal cruelty, right?

Yeah, but who gave us the right?

 

[Shaul]

It wins Senate vote 25 - 10

"The state Senate has approved a bill designed to make it clear that bestiality is illegal in Louisiana.

A law on the books prohibits "crimes against nature," but it also outlaws so-called sodomy and was ruled unconstitutional in 2003.

New Orleans Senator JP Morrell says it's important that the state has a way to arrest someone for having sex with animals."
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But with almost 30% (10) of the senators voting against the bill, there must be something to be said for bestiality. That it isn't important that the state have a way to arrest someone for having sex with animals.

Question: What do you think can be said for bestiality? OR, if you prefer, tell us what's wrong with it.

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You keep posting threads about deviant sexuality. Threads about incest, for legalizing prostitution, and now bestiality. I’m sure there are many other threads of yours about other weird sex. Perhaps you enjoy coming to a religious board to wind up people about these things. Or perhaps you are some sort of pest troll. Or maybe you just have some other “personal issue”. You should find a new hobby. This one is gross and lame.

 

[Shaul]

Yeah, but who gave us the right?

God or nobody but our innate humanity and superiority over animals, take your pick. The truth is man has dominion over the animals. With the rights of dominion comes the responsibility to treat them humanely too.

 

[Mock Turtle]

You keep posting threads about deviant sexuality. Threads about incest, for legalizing prostitution, and now bestiality. I’m sure there are many other threads of yours about other weird sex. Perhaps you enjoy coming to a religious board to wind up people about these things. Or perhaps you are some sort of pest troll. Or maybe you just have some other “personal issue”. You should find a new hobby. This one is gross and lame.

Perhaps he's exploring his sexuality. (You have the same birthday as me).

 

[Mock Turtle]

God or nobody but our innate humanity and superiority over animals, take your pick. The truth is man has dominion over the animals. With the rights of dominion comes the responsibility to treat them humanely too.

But an assumed one nevertheless.

 

[suncowiam]

Some animals might be seen as such, but the vast majority?

That distinction is arbitrary. The point here is that animals can be property, and that some animals are property.

 

[Mock Turtle]

That distinction is arbitrary. The point here is that animals can be property, and that some animals are property.

Only because the animals choose to be with us (pets mostly) or because we have them in captivity. And even then, many wouldn't regard their pets as property, and the animals we choose to eat don't really have any choice, do they.

 

[suncowiam]

Only because the animals choose to be with us (pets mostly) or because we have them in captivity. And even then, many wouldn't regard their pets as property, and the animals we choose to eat don't really have any choice, do they.

We're digressing... Anyhows have a good one.

 

[Mock Turtle]

We're digressing... Anyhows have a good one.

Okey-dokey.

 

[Skwim]

You mean if pigs could fly?

Man has a right to use animals but not abuse them. You do know there are laws against animal cruelty, right?

Yes. So what is your point?

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[Kangaroo Feathers]

You keep posting threads about deviant sexuality. Threads about incest, for legalizing prostitution, and now bestiality. I’m sure there are many other threads of yours about other weird sex. Perhaps you enjoy coming to a religious board to wind up people about these things. Or perhaps you are some sort of pest troll. Or maybe you just have some other “personal issue”. You should find a new hobby. This one is gross and lame.

Who's forcing you to participate?

 

[Skwim]

You keep posting threads about deviant sexuality. Threads about incest, for legalizing prostitution, and now bestiality. I’m sure there are many other threads of yours about other weird sex. Perhaps you enjoy coming to a religious board to wind up people about these things. Or perhaps you are some sort of pest troll. Or maybe you just have some other “personal issue”. You should find a new hobby. This one is gross and lame.

Is someone making you read these posts? Do you not have the discretion to ignore them? You are aware are you not that RF has made a forum specifically for sexual topics, and by implication is inviting people to post on such topics. Heck, it even has an EROS ROOM for more intimate sexual issues. (Some sex related issues, such as this one, are posted in the ETHICS form). So, although it may not have occurred to you, posts such as mine are welcomed here. Were they not they would be deleted. But I have to say, what's kind of baffling is your apparent ignorance of all the other non-religious forums, such as Middle Eastern Politics. Sports, and Home Town. These and many others have nothing whatsoever to do with religion, yet you single out sexual issues as in some way being inappropriate on RF. My suspicion, and it's only a suspicion, is that you harbor some kind of sexual hangup that prevents you from accepting the fact that sex and all its attendant manifestation are part of human existence and worthy of discussing; that sexually perhaps you're a Lights-Off-Missionary-Position-Only kind of guy, which is just fine. That said, you have every right to be embarrassed about sex in all its other forms, but please try to keep it in perspective. There are many others here (simply witness the number of responses to sex related issues) who find such subjects not only non-threatening, but interesting.

So, I'm sorry my posts wind you up, but please take the opportunity to ignore them and go on to those you feel more comfortable with and enjoy. It's what I always do.

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