Love Loves a Doubter

[crossfire]

I'm sorry but is English your first language?

Your grammar is confusing me.

Which part are you confused by?

 

[viole]

I suppose a doubter to be a better student of science, philosophy, of life in general.

Why? Because when a person questions something they are actually showing an interest in that something. Unlike those who simply accept it without question. Likely they don't even have an interest, or aren't inquisitive about the subject.

What say you?

I doubt you are right.

Ciao

- viole

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Which part are you confused by?

"With this statement everything becomes a false authority:"

 

[David T]

I agree.

"This is one of the miracles of love: It gives a power of seeing through its own enchantments and yet not being disenchanted."
~C. S. Lewis​

You need doubt to see through an enchantment, no?

Well put!!! I am no fan of CS Lewis theology, but he broke from his atheism because how Tolkien described the Christian text. He saw the enchantment the spell he was living under because of how Tolkien approached the text. I don't see in Lewis' writing much maturity though as if like an alcoholic suddenly realizes he isn't the center of everything but then just moves that a tiny tiny bit. There is zero in lewis' writing in regards to nature, Tolkiens writings are much much more nature oriented which I appreciate. Lewis could spin a fantastic story though and I do love his fiction. Lion witch and the wardrobe is outstanding.

 

[Fool]

Sulfur was not attributed to the soul at that point in time as far as I know. If I remember correctly that came about in dark ages alchemy.

If your interpretation is correct that would be just another Bible contradiction.

alchemy is older than the kjv of the bible. in fact, it is attributed to hermes trigmegistus.

the philosophers stone is mentioned in revelation 4:3

 

[crossfire]

"With this statement everything becomes a false authority:"

OK, this is how I'm following the conversation:

socratic questioning is considered healthy.

jesus, if he existed, said to ask, seek, knock.

question authority

But not his authority or you get hellfire.

{clarified} I said: "Do you have a source referencing where Jesus said this?

I was referring to the user's statement that we should question everything.

And no one has any verified sources of Yeshua saying anything.

If there are no verified sources, then your claim of Jesus saying questioning his authority leading to hellfire is baseless. Any claims would be baseless--based on false authority.

I hope this clears everything up.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

alchemy is older than the kjv of the bible. in fact, it is attributed to hermes trigmegistus.

the philosophers stone is mentioned in revelation 4:3

Did I say anything about the kjv?

I said that, if memory serves, alchemy is not older than the bible.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

OK, this is how I'm following the conversation:



{clarified} I said: "Do you have a source referencing where Jesus said this?

If there are no verified sources, then your claim of Jesus saying questioning his authority leading to hellfire is baseless. Any claims would be baseless--based on false authority.

I hope this clears everything up.

Here is where the problem is.

Fool said on his own authority to question everything but used a scripture as a vague backing.

I pointed out that questioning Yeshua's authority would make you got to hell in Christian theology.

I did not say that Yeshua said that.

 

[Spiderman]

I think Jesus would rather kick it with Atheists than the average Christian

 

[Fool]

Did I say anything about the kjv?

I said that, if memory serves, alchemy is not older than the bible.

any version of the chiristian bible isn't older than alchemy. alchemy is attributed to chem, or egypt,. chem is the ancient term by the hebrews for egyptians. chem, or ham, was the father of the egyptian nation.

moses got his education in the land of chem. this is why it is written, "out of egypt I called my son". or out of the furnace.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

any version of the chiristian bible isn't older than alchemy. alchemy is attributed to chem, or egypt,. chem is the ancient term by the hebrews for egyptians. chem, or ham, was the father of the egyptian nation.

People attribute alchemy to Egpyt but I have seen no evidence of that. Mind showing some proof?

moses got his education in the land of chem. this is why it is written, "out of egypt I called my son". or out of the furnace.

Actually archaeology seems to suggest that the Jews where never slaves to the Egyptians.

 

[Fool]

People attribute alchemy to Egpyt but I have seen no evidence of that. Mind showing some proof?

alchemy facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about alchemy

A Brief History of Alchemy

FYI, a famous scientist was also a gnostic and practitioner of alchemy

you know him as Isaac Newton.

Actually archaeology seems to suggest that the Jews where never slaves to the Egyptians.

all dynasties tended to expect tribute from their vassals. even englands monarchy enslaved its people. you can enslave people in a myriad number of ways.


since you opened the door, i walked through.


fyi, i'm not providing any more "evidence". you can google and research yourself.

 

[crossfire]

Here is where the problem is.

Fool said on his own authority to question everything but used a scripture as a vague backing.

I pointed out that questioning Yeshua's authority would make you got to hell in Christian theology.

I did not say that Yeshua said that.

Umm, nope.

Luke 12:10 (in context)
8 “And I say to you, anyone who acknowledges Me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God, 9 but whoever denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God. 10 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. 11 Whenever they bring you before synagogues and rulers and authorities, don’t worry about how you should defend yourselves or what you should say. 12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you at that very hour what must be said.”​

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

alchemy facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about alchemy

A Brief History of Alchemy

FYI, a famous scientist was also a gnostic and practitioner of alchemy

you know him as Isaac Newton.



all dynasties tended to expect tribute from their vassals. even englands monarchy enslaved its people. you can enslave people in a myriad number of ways.


since you opened the door, i walked through.

I mean actually historical or scientific articles.

And I know that Sir Newton was an alchemist.

fyi, i'm not providing any more "evidence". you can google and research yourself.

Then I think your full of ****

You have the burden of proof here not me.

Hey Lord Helix is real! Im not going to provide any real evidence, its your job to look that up! Da der.

 

[Fool]

I mean actually historical or scientific articles.

And I know that Sir Newton was an alchemist.

what you mean?

you were provided a historical information via a link to a university page.

if you're quite capable of an opinion, you're quite capable of doing your own research.

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Then I think your full of ****

You have the burden of proof here not me.

Hey Lord Helix is real! Im not going to provide any real evidence, its your job to look that up! Da der.

what you think of anyone isn't relevant to the subject.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

what you mean?

you were provided a historical information via a link to a university page.

if you're quite capable of an opinion, you're quite capable of doing your own research.





what you think of anyone isn't relevant to the subject.

You have the burden of proof.

If you want your claim to be supported you have to provide evidence.

"A claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Hitchen's Razor