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Love your neighborhood Jew as yourself

rosends

Well-Known Member
That's all because you have no clue or idea which Jew is which.

Even Jesus pointed the fake Jews out in John 8:39-44 ---"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it"

Even in the book of Revelation 2:9, Jesus pointed the false Jew's out---" I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

As did Paul in the book of Romans 9:6--
--" Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel"

Therefore those fake Jews are trying to steal the birthright of the true Israel.
You say "even" as if others said it and the example you give is some extreme which proves the point ("everyone liked the cereal EVEN Mikey"). But the "even" adds nothing because if that is an unreliable source, then you lose any credibility with the claim. What if I said, "Jesus is not a messiah, only a prophet...EVEN the Koran says so."

You'd probably say "ah, yes, but the Koran lacks the credibility and authority to make that pronouncement."

That's what I say to your citing Jesus and Gospels to make a self-serving redefinition of the concept of Jews.
 
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So, non christians, dont have to repent, or arent bad?:confused:
God tells you not to jump off a cliff. You jump anyway a break a leg. Who is to blame?

God is definitely against Christians killing Jews. A Christian kills a JEWTyway. Who is to blame?
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So, non christians, dont have to repent, or arent bad?:confused:
If your deity tells you to jump off a cliff then I would say you are following a Man Made deity, this Chaotic World is a result

The scriptures explain God, not history.
Those Jews were not real Jews. They were fake Jews, trying to steal the birth right of the true Jews of Israel.

So the priesthood ( Pharisees) were the fake Jews who Jesus and the Baptist were against.
Those Jews were not real Jews. They were fake Jews, trying to steal the birth right of the true Jews of Israel.

So the priesthood ( Pharisees) were the fake Jews who Jesus and the Baptist were against.
The Levite's are the Priests of Judaism, the Pharisees were like the Sadducees, a Political/Religious Movement of the 2nd Temple era, they believed and taught the resurrection of the dead were the Sadducees who were Hellenistic Jews who taught the opposite. Even Jesus said to practice and observe all that they do. Gd designated the Jews to be a
Light to the Nations, but as this chaotic world testifies, Mankind prefers Darkness.
 
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So, non christians, dont have to repent, or arent bad?:confused:
All humans sin and are in need of repenting, but History shows that it is Christianity became the Jews longest enduring and most deadliest of all their oppressors. Right now Gd is allowing them to reopent, they should take this opportunity before it passes by.
 
That's all because you have no clue or idea which Jew is which.

Even Jesus pointed the fake Jews out in John 8:39-44 ---"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it"

Even in the book of Revelation 2:9, Jesus pointed the false Jew's out---" I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

As did Paul in the book of Romans 9:6--
--" Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel"

Therefore those fake Jews are trying to steal the birthright of the true Israel.
So Gd declared who the Jews are, it's written in the Bible, your New Testament again and again goes against Gd and the Bible.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Great, clears that up.

*p-chiingg, * nope, still not making sense.

You should read how you worded that question, again. Somethings wrong with it.:lightbulb:

Come on...... be brave.
Do you have a Church or Creed?
Can you live harmoniously amongst Jews?
And while we're at it, and since it's been mentioned so much, do you accept that the holocaust did happen?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
You say "even" as if others said it and the example you give is some extreme which proves the point ("everyone liked the cereal EVEN Mikey"). But the "even" adds nothing because if that is an unreliable source, then you lose any credibility with the claim. What if I said, "Jesus is not a messiah, only a prophet...EVEN the Koran says so."

You'd probably say "ah, yes, but the Koran lacks the credibility and authority to make that pronouncement."

That's what I say to your citing Jesus and Gospels to make a self-serving redefinition of the concept of Jews.

So you say, seeing I am FaithofChristian, the Qu'ran holds nothing for me.
FaithofChristian means Faith of Christ Jesus. For my Faith is in Christ Jesus alone and no one else.

Seeing that the Jesus in the Qu'ran is not the same Jesus in the bible.

Seeing how the Qu'ran didn't come about until 625 yrs after the death of Jesus.

Seeing how Jesus gave prophecy about a false prophet in the desert, and muhammad is that false prophet in the desert.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
My religion is Adonai Elohim.
Fair enough........... more to do with the Israelites laws and culture than Christianity, I guess.

Creed and church is your thing.
So you don't take notice of folks after all.
Deists don't have a Creed or Church, but since you don't either, that does rather exclude Christianity for you if you don't have a basic list of tenets or beliefs.

Define harmoniously.
And that looks rather like a sidestep, so I'm guessing that you might have some difficulties about living amongst Jews or even other religions? Possibly?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I thought that Christians did not believe that Jesus ever died?
Most Christians I know think that Jesus is God.

:shrug:


Jesus never did die, only the body of Jesus died.
Jesus himself is God. In the flesh and blood body.

Like us, our body die's, but our spirit that is in the body does not die, only our flesh and blood body dies.
Our spirit returns back to God who gave it.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
So you say, seeing I am FaithofChristian, the Qu'ran holds nothing for me.
FaithofChristian means Faith of Christ Jesus. For my Faith is in Christ Jesus alone and no one else.

Seeing that the Jesus in the Qu'ran is not the same Jesus in the bible.

Seeing how the Qu'ran didn't come about until 625 yrs after the death of Jesus.

Seeing how Jesus gave prophecy about a false prophet in the desert, and muhammad is that false prophet in the desert.
In a word, yes.
Seeing how the Torah discusses false prophets, Jesus is false.
Seeing how the talmud invalidates your claims, yes, Jesus is false.

The holiday of Sukkot is about to star so I'm shutting down. But, yes. Unless you want to say that the view of the koran that Jesus is only a prophet and nothing more bothers you...tell me otherwise.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Jesus never did die, only the body of Jesus died.
Jesus himself is God. In the flesh and blood body.

Like us, our body die's, but our spirit that is in the body does not die, only our flesh and blood body dies.
Our spirit returns back to God who gave it.

So maybe Jesus, God, is also Allah?
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Go take a hike if you think that insulting someone is like persecuting a group of people for over a millennia.
The OP was mentioning supposed insults from Christians; so I simply turned it around. Yes Jews do insult Christians! Both sides are guilty I'm sure of it. That had zero to do with actual persecution. You're completely misrepresenting my post. :rolleyes:

And btw I like hikes! Thanks for the suggestion! :p
All extermination camps or the remnants of them were liberated by the USSR.

My grandparents were liberated by soldiers of the red army, not American or British soldiers.
Simply not true. I realize some were, but you're claiming all of them were. It's not true.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Hitler used the New Testament and writings of the Protestant Reformer Martin Luther to change ordinary Germans into murderous Nazis. History shows that it is Christianity who became Israel/the Jews longest enduring and most deadliest of all their oppressors. Gd is allowing the Christians to repent.
Balderdash.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
That's all because you have no clue or idea which Jew is which.

Even Jesus pointed the fake Jews out in John 8:39-44 ---"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it"

Even in the book of Revelation 2:9, Jesus pointed the false Jew's out---" I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

As did Paul in the book of Romans 9:6--
--" Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel"

Therefore those fake Jews are trying to steal the birthright of the true Israel.

The problem with this is that it was the same references in the NT those that persecute Jews use,
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
In a word, yes.
Seeing how the Torah discusses false prophets, Jesus is false.
Seeing how the talmud invalidates your claims, yes, Jesus is false.

The holiday of Sukkot is about to star so I'm shutting down. But, yes. Unless you want to say that the view of the koran that Jesus is only a prophet and nothing more bothers you...tell me otherwise.

Like I said, Jesus that's in the Qu'ran is not the same Jesus in the bible.

Jesus in the bible is not only a prophet but thee Son of God, .for Jesus is God in the flesh and blood.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The problem with this is that it was the same references in the NT those that persecute Jews use,


Those that persecuted Jews, had no idea that are two Jews in the world.

I think that even you has no idea that there are two Jews in the world.
The true Jew of Israel and the false Jew of Israel.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Those that persecuted Jews, had no idea that are two Jews in the world.

I think that even you has no idea that there are two Jews in the world.
The true Jew of Israel and the false Jew of Israel.
Your making a vague categorizing of two different groups of Jews, one good and one bad, and this is a problem with a religious agenda to justify scripture in the NT referring to Jews. Not a good idea.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Hitler used the New Testament and writings of the Protestant Reformer Martin Luther to change ordinary Germans into murderous Nazis.

Lots of people use good things to justify bad behavior.....the Pharisees of Jesus' day did too. It's a very human failing.
Hitler is hardly the only example of using religion as a tool for propaganda. The "opium of the masses" has a deluding effect because people mistakenly think God is in religion. God did not create religion...man did.

History shows that it is Christianity who became Israel/the Jews longest enduring and most deadliest of all their oppressors. Gd is allowing the Christians to repent.

Indeed.....in a long line of those who went before them. But in saying that, you assume that "Christendom" is actually "Christianity".....the Bible proves that it never was. Genuine followers of Jesus Christ never raised a hand to anyone. They used their voice and the word of God as their only weapons, just like their teacher....

Can you tell me why you believe that the "Jews/Israel" were oppressed by so many for so long? If the nation was promised God's blessing and protection if they strictly obeyed him, then what is wrong with this picture?
 
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