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Love your neighborhood Jew as yourself

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The only Jew I know who calls Gentile dogs was Jesus, and it is recorded History that I speak of.

Actually Jesus used a word that meant a small puppy. He was alluding to the pets kept in the homes of the Gentiles who were given the crumbs from the table of their owners. He never called Gentiles "dogs"...bad translation....bad interpretation.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Your making a vague categorizing of two different groups of Jews, one good and one bad, and this is a problem with a religious agenda to justify scripture in the NT referring to Jews. Not a good idea.

Well it's not hard to see and know
Who's, who. If you follow the blood lines throughout the bible.

It doesn't take a college professor to figure it out. Just follow the blood lines from generation to generation from the old testament to the new testament.
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
God’s review of the Jews---

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

The above prophesy was fulfilled in 1947ad

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

If they repent and ask the Lord for forgiveness He will forgive them but if they don’t they will be no more remembered~~~~ or so the scripture goes
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Who's, who. If you follow the blood lines throughout the bible.

The Jewish people were shepherds who wondered the lands grazing their sheep on the open plains. The Jews remained on the open plains until Joseph, a fellow Jew becomes ruler over all of Egypt. Joseph was the most powerful person in Egypt next only to the Pharaoh himself. With this great political power Joseph invites the Jews living on the plains to move to Egypt, and move they did, but before going over the verses covering Joseph I note the linage from Noah to Rachel to Joseph~~

(Gen 5:28 KJV) And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

(Gen 5:29 KJV) And he called his name Noah

(Gen 5:32 KJV) And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem

(Gen 10:21 KJV) Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber

(Gen 10:25 KJV) And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg;

(Gen 11:18 KJV) And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:

(Gen 11:20 KJV) And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:

(Gen 11:22 KJV) And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:

(Gen 22:20 KJV) And it came to pass after these things, that it was told Abraham, saying, Behold, Milcah, she hath also born children unto thy brother Nahor;

(Gen 22:21 KJV) Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,

(Gen 22:22 KJV) And Chesed, and Hazo, and Pildash, and Jidlaph, and Bethuel.

(Gen 22:23 KJV) And Bethuel begat Rebekah

(Gen 24:29 KJV) And Rebekah had a brother, and his name was Laban.

(Gen 29:16 KJV) And Laban had two daughters.,.and the name of the younger was Rachel

(Gen 30:25 KJV) And it came to pass, when Rachel had born Joseph.

And Joseph is where I begin this unfolding story---

Only the Pharaoh had more power than Joseph who was the second man in command

(Gen 42:6 KJV) And Joseph (who was Jewish) was the governor over the land, and he it was that sold to all the people of the land:

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their (his fellow Jewish kin) sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

(Gen 47:4 KJV) They said moreover unto Pharaoh, For to sojourn in the land are we come; for thy servants have no pasture for their flocks; for the famine is sore in the land of Canaan: now therefore, we pray thee, let thy servants dwell in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:

(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL] and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

The Jews remained in Egypt for a long time, some believe Joseph was entombed in one of the great pyramids.
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Love your neighborhood Jew as yourself

The HUFFPOST disagrees with the above. The neighbor God was referring to was not a fellow Jew

Tora Love Thy Neighbor

The organization I represent, the Interreligious Coordinating Council in Israel, has partnered with the Scarboro Missions Interfaith Department in Toronto in publishing a poster which portrays the “Love your neighbor as yourself” statement as a major theme in no less than 12 of the world’s major religions!

A key question that has always interested me is: what is the meaning of the word “neighbor” in the statement “Love your neighbor as yourself. According to some commentators, the Hebrew word for “neighbor,” rei-acha, refers only to Jews. This view is supported by the context in which the phrase appears in the Torah, which can be translated as follows: “You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall not take revenge or feel resentment against the children of your people, you shall love your companion as yourself” (Leviticus 19:17-18). Looking carefully at this, it seems clear that “your companion” falls into the same category as “your brother” and “the children of your people,” all explicitly referring to one’s fellow Jews.

According to this view, “Love your neighbor as yourself” does not refer to anyone outside the Jewish people. “Neighbor” is not an accurate translation for the word rei-acha. The Hebrew word for “neighbor” is shachen; the Hebrew word rei-ah means “a very close companion” and sometimes rei-ah is used to mean “spouse.”

So who are our “neighbors” or “close companions” today? Are they only our fellow Jews? Can we extend the meaning to include all “human beings” in general as our neighbors in our country or in the global village? Or is this too much to ask?

The verses of Leviticus 19:33-34 shed some light on these questions and offers a corrective on the notion that we should love only members of our own tribe or our own collective family. These verses relate to others who live in our midst, “the stranger who resides with you,” that is, the non-Jew. What do we do about him or her? How do we relate to someone who is not a member of our people? In these verses the Torah is very clear: you should love the stranger as yourself. Why? Because “you were strangers in the land of Egypt,” that is, because of our history as a persecuted minority in someone else’s land, we Jews should have a special sensitivity to the non-Jewish citizens in our midst.

But is the State of Israel today only for Jews? Is there a place for minorities within its midst, for Israeli Arabs, be they Muslim or Christian? The Torah teaching in our portion is very clear: we must not wrong strangers; rather, we should regard them as fellow citizens and even love them as ourselves, which would translate into granting them equal rights. In other words, the State of Israel — which seeks to be a Jewish as well as a democratic state — should take both verses referred to above as essential. We must love our fellow Jews as brothers and sisters in a historic, unique collective family, and at the same time we must love the stranger as we love ourselves, to treat the non-Jew with the same dignity that we would wish and envision for ourselves. This would be the real meaning of what it means to be “holy” in the “Holy Land” today.

Love the Stranger as Yourself | HuffPost
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The Jewish people were shepherds who wondered the lands grazing their sheep on the open plains. The Jews remained on the open plains until Joseph, a fellow Jew becomes ruler over all of Egypt. Joseph was the most powerful person in Egypt next only to the Pharaoh himself. With this great political power Joseph invites the Jews living on the plains to move to Egypt, and move they did, but before going over the verses covering Joseph I note the linage from Noah to Rachel to Joseph~~

(Gen 5:28 KJV) And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

(Gen 5:29 KJV) And he called his name Noah

(Gen 5:32 KJV) And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem

(Gen 10:21 KJV) Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber

(Gen 10:25 KJV) And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg;

(Gen 11:18 KJV) And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:

(Gen 11:20 KJV) And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:

(Gen 11:22 KJV) And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:

(Gen 22:20 KJV) And it came to pass after these things, that it was told Abraham, saying, Behold, Milcah, she hath also born children unto thy brother Nahor;

(Gen 22:21 KJV) Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,

(Gen 22:22 KJV) And Chesed, and Hazo, and Pildash, and Jidlaph, and Bethuel.

(Gen 22:23 KJV) And Bethuel begat Rebekah

(Gen 24:29 KJV) And Rebekah had a brother, and his name was Laban.

(Gen 29:16 KJV) And Laban had two daughters.,.and the name of the younger was Rachel

(Gen 30:25 KJV) And it came to pass, when Rachel had born Joseph.

And Joseph is where I begin this unfolding story---

Only the Pharaoh had more power than Joseph who was the second man in command

(Gen 42:6 KJV) And Joseph (who was Jewish) was the governor over the land, and he it was that sold to all the people of the land:

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their (his fellow Jewish kin) sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

(Gen 47:4 KJV) They said moreover unto Pharaoh, For to sojourn in the land are we come; for thy servants have no pasture for their flocks; for the famine is sore in the land of Canaan: now therefore, we pray thee, let thy servants dwell in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:

(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL] and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

The Jews remained in Egypt for a long time, some believe Joseph was entombed in one of the great pyramids.

As to how do you come by the Jews moved to Egypt when there were no Jews at the time of Joseph, Seeing Israel only came about thru Jacob and seeing Jacob's name being change to Israel before there were any Jews.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Jesus is God, Jesus in the Son of God. Allah false God, muhammad false prophet.
You don't know that.
Prove it.
And don't tell me that somebody said something...... that's all hearsay.
If you're prepared to believe in what Paul or John said then you'll believe anything, is how I feel.

Me? I'm a Deist.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
You don't know that.
Prove it.
And don't tell me that somebody said something...... that's all hearsay.
If you're prepared to believe in what Paul or John said then you'll believe anything, is how I feel.

Me? I'm a Deist.

Well you showed your lack of knowing anything about a Christian.that's for sure.

As for believing in Paul and John, I would rather believe in them, than you, thats for sure.
You proved that you haven't a clue or idea about anything.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Speaking of neighborhood jews, my favorite coworker, a jewish woman. Dont work there now, but she was cool. Incidentally, we have the same type of name,[from same area in europe, usually people have no idea about my name. Well, i assume shes jewish,

I would like to give you a hint about something, that probably you don't know.

In Israel there are only two tribes left. The tribe of Israel and the tribe of Judah, The other 10 tribes broke off from Israel and went over what is called the caucus mountains. And settled in the land of Europe and some went from there to settle in what has become the United States.
Why do you suppose many places have become great nation's in the world.
Therefore you could be member of one of those tribes.

Remember God did promise Abraham he would become the father of great nation's?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I love my enemies

Ok. How do you know? .................... Ive thought alot about this. Point one.......the possibility of evolution. Out of this comes a fact. Fact is, us humans have not changed. Best point of reference ancient egypt because of the art they left behind. So with that, from today back to the oldest art found depicting human. So from here to then, was not enough time. Being opened minded here. If we doubled that time. We are getting closer to humans coexisting with Dinosaurs. ..........part two the religion side. Adam and Eve the first not to mention. In 7 days. So what you think? Possible?

The period of time sine the Egyptians? You do not understand the time frame involved in evolution.

"Closer to humans / dinosaurs coexisting?"
Nonsense.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Surely you've read Shakespeare at some point in your education. You can't decipher "what sayest thou?"

Desire and inability are two different things. Check your premise.


Did the verse which God gave say the same thing I said or not? I'm beginning to doubt your intelligence. You seem to have trouble with simple sentences.

Did you tell all your profs they don't know what they are talking about or were you meek to learn what they had to say?


Sounds like a leading question. I'll abstain. Only a mindless fool would judge someone's intelligence with such a simple question.

I can understand "what sayeth thou" just fine. I asked why the archaic usage. But never mind.

But you are missing the topic, and responding to the
wrong quote.

I was ASKING ABOUT this weird bit of verbiage.
"Operate the manifestation of word of knowledge and word of wisdom"?

But it is ok, I am satisfied you cannot explain what it
means.

I have told more than one prof that he was wrong,
when he was. Meek? Never. Respectful of those
who know more than I? Of course.

Contemptuous of nonsense? Always.

Sounds like a leading question. I'll abstain. Only a mindless fool would judge someone's intelligence with such a simple question

You do not even know what a leading question is.
Look it up sometime.

Perhaps it is so what you say about a mindless fool.

But then I spoke of education, not intelligence.

You are confused. Look at what I actually said, not
what you imagine.

Oh and as for Noahs ark, your reason for dodging
was phony. Do you have a real reason?
 

rrobs

Well-Known Member
I can understand "what sayeth thou" just fine. I asked why the archaic usage. But never mind.

But you are missing the topic, and responding to the
wrong quote.

I was ASKING ABOUT this weird bit of verbiage.
"Operate the manifestation of word of knowledge and word of wisdom"?

But it is ok, I am satisfied you cannot explain what it
means.

I have told more than one prof that he was wrong,
when he was. Meek? Never. Respectful of those
who know more than I? Of course.

Contemptuous of nonsense? Always.

Sounds like a leading question. I'll abstain. Only a mindless fool would judge someone's intelligence with such a simple question

You do not even know what a leading question is.
Look it up sometime.

Perhaps it is so what you say about a mindless fool.

But then I spoke of education, not intelligence.

You are confused. Look at what I actually said, not
what you imagine.

Oh and as for Noahs ark, your reason for dodging
was phony. Do you have a real reason?
You're a funny girl. A bit coarse perhaps, but funny.

The way things are, it's doubtful I'll ever give you a meaningful answer on anything, so you may want to consider not responding to anything I write. Of course it's up to you to do whatever you want.
 
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I would like to give you a hint about something, that probably you don't know.

In Israel there are only two tribes left. The tribe of Israel and the tribe of Judah, The other 10 tribes broke off from Israel and went over what is called the caucus mountains. And settled in the land of Europe and some went from there to settle in what has become the United States.
Why do you suppose many places have become great nation's in the world.
Therefore you could be member of one of those tribes.

Remember God did promise Abraham he would become the father of great nation's?
Actually Jesus used a word that meant a small puppy. He was alluding to the pets kept in the homes of the Gentiles who were given the crumbs from the table of their owners. He never called Gentiles "dogs"...bad translation....bad interpretation.
No, Jesus called the woman a dog, a filthy animal, trying to distort Jesus' view of Gentiles is very telling.
 
I would like to give you a hint about something, that probably you don't know.

In Israel there are only two tribes left. The tribe of Israel and the tribe of Judah, The other 10 tribes broke off from Israel and went over what is called the caucus mountains. And settled in the land of Europe and some went from there to settle in what has become the United States.
Why do you suppose many places have become great nation's in the world.
Therefore you could be member of one of those tribes.

Remember God did promise Abraham he would become the father of great nation's?
God’s review of the Jews---

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

The above prophesy was fulfilled in 1947ad

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

If they repent and ask the Lord for forgiveness He will forgive them but if they don’t they will be no more remembered~~~~ or so the scripture goes
Gd declared Israel is His Son, read Isaiah 60 Israel is restored and redeemed and their Oppressors become their Servants. History shows that it is Christianity that became the Jews longest enduring and most deadliest of all their oppressors.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
You're a funny girl. A bit coarse perhaps, but funny.

The way things are, it's doubtful I'll ever give you a meaningful answer on anything, so you may want to consider not responding to anything I write. Of course it's up to you to do whatever you want.

Of course you wont ever have the capacity
to explain what your own words mean.
That was obvious from the first.

Whether or not patronizing sexism is just
your personal value, or that of your group,
it is disturbing to see how little it takes to
bring it to the surface

Great advert for the virtues of you religion.
Keep it up!
 

rrobs

Well-Known Member
The New Testament is not only heretical it is blatantly Antisemitic, there is no devil in the Bible/Judaism and it is Israel/the Jews who Gd declared to be His Son.
Wow! Quite an indictment.

There is much more in the OT that castigates the Jews than in the NT. Start with the first chapter of Isaiah. Among other indictments, verse 6 says they had no soundness in them whatsoever. You sure won't find anything near that in the NT. Have you read Romans chapters 9-11? It doesn't seem like you have. It makes it crystal clear that without the Jews there wouldn't even be any Christians. Hardly antisemitic.
 
Wow! Quite an indictment.

There is much more in the OT that castigates the Jews than in the NT. Start with the first chapter of Isaiah. Among other indictments, verse 6 says they had no soundness in them whatsoever. You sure won't find anything near that in the NT. Have you read Romans chapters 9-11? It doesn't seem like you have. It makes it crystal clear that without the Jews there wouldn't even be any Christians. Hardly antisemitic.
Wow! Quite an indictment.

There is much more in the OT that castigates the Jews than in the NT. Start with the first chapter of Isaiah. Among other indictments, verse 6 says they had no soundness in them whatsoever. You sure won't find anything near that in the NT. Have you read Romans chapters 9-11? It doesn't seem like you have. It makes it crystal clear that without the Jews there wouldn't even be any Christians. Hardly antisemitic.
Yes, Gd disciplines His Son Israel, He also restores and redeems Israel. I only go by the Bible, the NT teaches against it.
 
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