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Loved ones in hell - take 2.

Tiberius

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said:
No, I don't know what you would ask because I don't know what you did not understand.

People in Heaven will be "who they were at the moment they departed out of this world" but their physical body will not go to Heaven so they won't carry any infirmities of the physical body that they had when they were alive in their physical body.
The soul will continue to exist and take on a spiritual body and they will start in a whole new path.
Alzheimer's is a brain disease but since they won't have a brain anymore they will not take that disease with them.

That is what YOU would expect but it is not what people would expect if they understood what I explained.

Just because we cannot understand what the afterlife is like (since it is so different from this life) does not mean the afterlife does not exist. A baby in the womb cannot understand what this life will be like, yet this life exists.

Just because God did not reveal the nature of the afterlife that does not mean it doesn't exist.
God chose not to reveal what it will be like for a good reason, because those who are going to Heaven would kill themselves since they would not want to live one more minute on earth.

“The nature of the soul after death can never be described, nor is it meet and permissible to reveal its whole character to the eyes of men...... The world beyond is as different from this world as this world is different from that of the child while still in the womb of its mother.” Gleanings, pp. 156-157

“As to those that have tasted of the fruit of man’s earthly existence, which is the recognition of the one true God, exalted be His glory, their life hereafter is such as We are unable to describe. The knowledge thereof is with God, alone, the Lord of all worlds.” Gleanings, pp. 345-346
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So let me get this straight...

People will be in Heaven as they were when they passed, unless they aren't, and we won't have free choice, but we will be able to make choices, except for when we can't make choices.
 
R

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Tiberius said:
What's the point in posting then if no one can understand you anyway?
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Because I was life attacked in phenomena conditions which includes self human reasoning due to human chosen heavenly science experiments.

Our heavens is not science.

Science takes products from one God earth only as science not from its heavens.

If you own a machine science thesis the experiments should be inside the machine.

They were taken into the atmosphere heavens.

The thesis however says space beginnings.

Our heavens sit in the body space. The place first thought upon a beginning.

You don't think mass natural remaining present in a want by theories of a reaction. You quote how to cause a reaction.

Why do you think the Bible was written for with a science human life claiming it nonsense multi times by scientists.

As science lies and is manipulated by coercive reason.

Science does not include human existence in its thesis and so humans had to explain why science attacked life in natural life.

Our life did not begin in a reaction. God conversion is just a reaction human applied as a human statement.

God first inferred in science to the presence the planet body.


You stating C is a constant is a human science teaching.

The constant of light is thought about as gases burning in a vacuum.

Common sense you never owned the constant of light.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Tiberius said:
So let me get this straight...

People will be in Heaven as they were when they passed, unless they aren't, and we won't have free choice, but we will be able to make choices, except for when we can't make choices.
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No you do not have that straight.
When entering Heaven the souls of people will be in the condition they were in at the moment of death.
In Heaven we won't have free will as we know it in this life so we won't be able to make choices like we do in this life.
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
rational experiences said:
Because I was life attacked in phenomena conditions which includes self human reasoning due to human chosen heavenly science experiments.

Our heavens is not science.

Science takes products from one God earth only as science not from its heavens.

If you own a machine science thesis the experiments should be inside the machine.

They were taken into the atmosphere heavens.

The thesis however says space beginnings.

Our heavens sit in the body space. The place first thought upon a beginning.

You don't think mass natural remaining present in a want by theories of a reaction. You quote how to cause a reaction.

Why do you think the Bible was written for with a science human life claiming it nonsense multi times by scientists.

As science lies and is manipulated by coercive reason.

Science does not include human existence in its thesis and so humans had to explain why science attacked life in natural life.

Our life did not begin in a reaction. God conversion is just a reaction human applied as a human statement.

God first inferred in science to the presence the planet body.


You stating C is a constant is a human science teaching.

The constant of light is thought about as gases burning in a vacuum.

Common sense you never owned the constant of light.
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"Life attacked in phenomena conditions..."

This makes no sense, and the rest of your post is no different.
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said:
No you do not have that straight.
When entering Heaven the souls of people will be in the condition they were in at the moment of death.
In Heaven we won't have free will as we know it in this life so we won't be able to make choices like we do in this life.
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So it's the souls of people that will be as they are at the moment of death.

Can souls change?
 
R

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Tiberius said:
"Life attacked in phenomena conditions..."

This makes no sense, and the rest of your post is no different.
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Life gets attacked in phenomena conditions said of spirit. Science conscience. Consciousness uses basic science advice not technical sciences and said it's spiritual.

A spiritual attack as a science human teaching by conscious advice is a burning gas attack.

Gas in science human teaching the spirit.

Phenomena burning gas effect in an attacking extra radiation status. Phenomena.

The reason life attacked is not owner sciences gas alight constant conversion reasoning. Gases. Phenomena caused by chosen human sciences. The effect.
 
cataway

cataway

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said:
No you do not have that straight.
When entering Heaven the souls of people will be in the condition they were in at the moment of death.
In Heaven we won't have free will as we know it in this life so we won't be able to make choices like we do in this life.
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no
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
rational experiences said:
Life gets attacked in phenomena conditions said of spirit. Science conscience. Consciousness uses basic science advice not technical sciences and said it's spiritual.

A spiritual attack as a science human teaching by conscious advice is a burning gas attack.

Gas in science human teaching the spirit.

Phenomena burning gas effect in an attacking extra radiation status. Phenomena.

The reason life attacked is not owner sciences gas alight constant conversion reasoning. Gases. Phenomena caused by chosen human sciences. The effect.
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Your posts appear to be nothing more than random words strung together. They make no sense to me. Please try to form coherent thoughts with your sentences.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Tiberius said:
So it's the souls of people that will be as they are at the moment of death.

Can souls change?
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Yes, souls change continually in this world and souls will continue to change after they enter Heaven.

“And now concerning thy question regarding the soul of man and its survival after death. Know thou of a truth that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attaineth the presence of God, in a state and condition which neither the revolution of ages and centuries, nor the changes and chances of this world, can alter. It will endure as long as the Kingdom of God, His sovereignty, His dominion and power will endure. It will manifest the signs of God and His attributes, and will reveal His loving kindness and bounty.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 155-156
 
Tiberius

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said:
Yes, souls change continually in this world and souls will continue to change after they enter Heaven.

“And now concerning thy question regarding the soul of man and its survival after death. Know thou of a truth that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attaineth the presence of God, in a state and condition which neither the revolution of ages and centuries, nor the changes and chances of this world, can alter. It will endure as long as the Kingdom of God, His sovereignty, His dominion and power will endure. It will manifest the signs of God and His attributes, and will reveal His loving kindness and bounty.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 155-156
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So what happens if someone's soul is damaged just before they die? Will they be forced to enter Heaven with a damaged soul? Or do they get to have an earlier, undamaged soul?
 
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