Loving each and every living being.

[questfortruth]

How is that even possible you might ask?

Loving me, loving you.
It's the best I can do.

 

[Link]

Definitely not attachment imo. Those other things though, yeah. And compassion, forgiveness and a genuine desire that they should know peace. Praying for the people we are angry with, often reluctantly and through gritted teeth, can be very liberating.

This is similar to Jacob (a) prayers - regarding those oppressive towards Yusuf (a).

The balance is you hope everyone finds their way, but to me, if they die astray and off the path, then that is it at that point. That is the choice they will have to face the consequences for it. You have detach at that moment and let go.

Musa (a) wanted to guide Pharaoh at first, but later, prayed that God harden and curse his heart, for how he lead people astray.

Everything has a proper place and limit, even compassion. Use it too universally and at a level that no one is to be hated, and it becomes unjust to those who deserve it more then others.

 

[JustGeorge]

Definitely not attachment imo. Those other things though, yeah. And compassion, forgiveness and a genuine desire that they should know peace. Praying for the people we are angry with, often reluctantly and through gritted teeth, can be very liberating.

As a person who feels 'neutral' most of the time, sometimes its difficult to know what people mean when they describe feelings, but you've done so very well.

I think I love as many as I can, and that its more than many could. I deeply love the men who tried to kill us; I identify they had it worse than us; we moved away. They're stuck in that life. I'm pretty sure one got shot himself, further down the road. What hope did he have?

My oldest son's father was pretty abusive. I suffered a lot of anguish because of him. But he was so mentally ill, he couldn't help himself. He didn't even understand what he was doing. We became friends after I got away and was safe; I wish him well still. I'm glad he cleaned up his life and is in a good relationship now.

However, I cannot forgive everyone. When I was young, I dated a man with a horrid mother. When I chased off an attacker with a dog and a knife, I called and asked for help(their family lived a few blocks away). His mother said she wasn't helping, and hopefully he'd come back and finish the job. (His stepdad took control at that point, and told her to hush up, which he never did, and came to pick me up.) All kinds of hateful and violent things she said to me, who was too shy and quiet to defend myself. She abused her son mentally, because he wasn't who she wanted him to be(while exalting her other two kids). If I ever see that wretched woman again... I have more than two words for her, and I'm tough enough to say them now.

I consider the difference when someone causes harm because of ignorance, fear, regretful impulsiveness, mental illness, or what they perceive as lack of choice. I have a harder time forgiving seething hatred or violence for the love of violence. Yes, they too have the spark of the divine, but if I look at all the old religious stories, some of the divine figures can be quite dangerous. I can hope that they find reformation, but I hope first that they may never harm another again. That's the closest to love I can get for some.

I would say it means unconditional love. Being that no matter how someone treat us, there are always part of that one can learn from and use in a positive way toward others. Learning from negative experience means we would not put others in that situation by our self.

So one use each experience to become a better human being.

I felt this way when I banged my foot on the dog dish yesterday; I learned that I shouldn't put it in such a high traffic area, and I should watch where I'm going.

Was that love?

 

[sun rise]

To love everyone is impossible for almost every human being. Only a very very small number can do that. @SalixIncendium 's comment about "namaste" in the sense of I honor the light within you is very hard for me when it comes to people like Trump and Putin and I can only imagine how much harder for those who have attacked/raped others.

But I also recognize that my difficulty adds to my emotional burden and I thus chip away at it.

 

[Erebus]

Trying to love everyone ultimately devalues love in my opinion. Perhaps I can learn something from the malicious and selfish acts of others but why should I love them for it? After all, hating them for their actions doesn't diminish the lesson learned.

We have the capacity for love, hate and a whole range of emotions in between. In my view, it's better to accept that rather than deny the existence of our less friendly side.

 

[Link]

Trying to love everyone ultimately devalues love in my opinion. Perhaps I can learn something from the malicious and selfish acts of others but why should I love them for it? After all, hating them for their actions doesn't diminish the lesson learned.

We have the capacity for love, hate and a whole range of emotions in between. In my view, it's better to accept that rather than deny the existence of our less friendly side.

This is perfectly stated, and I do not believe God gave us hate and vengeance if it has no proper usage or good or virtuous usages. This is one of the pivotal points @Bird123 and I disagree upon. He sees its given simply to let us learn from the mistake of using it, but that it has no proper use.

The scary thing of it having a place in virtue, is that God is going to excel in it more then others, in it's proper place. This is scary thing about his retributive justice.

 

[Spirit of Light]

As a person who feels 'neutral' most of the time, sometimes its difficult to know what people mean when they describe feelings, but you've done so very well.

I think I love as many as I can, and that its more than many could. I deeply love the men who tried to kill us; I identify they had it worse than us; we moved away. They're stuck in that life. I'm pretty sure one got shot himself, further down the road. What hope did he have?

My oldest son's father was pretty abusive. I suffered a lot of anguish because of him. But he was so mentally ill, he couldn't help himself. He didn't even understand what he was doing. We became friends after I got away and was safe; I wish him well still. I'm glad he cleaned up his life and is in a good relationship now.

However, I cannot forgive everyone. When I was young, I dated a man with a horrid mother. When I chased off an attacker with a dog and a knife, I called and asked for help(their family lived a few blocks away). His mother said she wasn't helping, and hopefully he'd come back and finish the job. (His stepdad took control at that point, and told her to hush up, which he never did, and came to pick me up.) All kinds of hateful and violent things she said to me, who was too shy and quiet to defend myself. She abused her son mentally, because he wasn't who she wanted him to be(while exalting her other two kids). If I ever see that wretched woman again... I have more than two words for her, and I'm tough enough to say them now.

I consider the difference when someone causes harm because of ignorance, fear, regretful impulsiveness, mental illness, or what they perceive as lack of choice. I have a harder time forgiving seething hatred or violence for the love of violence. Yes, they too have the spark of the divine, but if I look at all the old religious stories, some of the divine figures can be quite dangerous. I can hope that they find reformation, but I hope first that they may never harm another again. That's the closest to love I can get for some.



I felt this way when I banged my foot on the dog dish yesterday; I learned that I shouldn't put it in such a high traffic area, and I should watch where I'm going.

Was that love?

If you stayed calm and collected instead of saying bad words and get mad at your animals, but felt at peace with your self and animals, it would be a form of unconditional love, in my understanding yes.

 

[The Hammer]

To love everyone is impossible for almost every human being. Only a very very small number can do that. @SalixIncendium 's comment about "namaste" in the sense of I honor the light within you is very hard for me when it comes to people like Trump and Putin and I can only imagine how much harder for those who have attacked/raped others.

But I also recognize that my difficulty adds to my emotional burden and I thus chip away at it.

I actually do feel bad for Trump. He honestly thinks he's right and everything/one is out to get him. But he is. A product of his garbage family and upbringing. He is the kind of person who gets written into the myths as a demon/monster, but like many of those in that category, his past is a tragic one.

 

[JustGeorge]

If you stayed calm and collected instead of saying bad words and get mad at your animals, but felt at peace with your self and animals, it would be a form of unconditional love, in my understanding yes.

I can say bad words and be at peace with myself and my animals!

I rather like 'bad words'... sentence enhancers, Spongebob calls them!

Though, if you throw too many in, you lose the point of the statement...

 

[Vee]

The good ones teach you what you can become. What to do with your life.
The bad ones teach you how to not become. What not to do with your life

That's a great way to put it. We can always learn something from be people, even when they give us bad examples.

From a Christian point of view, Jesus said "However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous." (Matt. 5: 43-45)
It is hard, but by showing kindness to those who hate us, maybe eventually their hearts will soften and their attitude will change. If not, at least we can live with a clear conscience, having done our best to be a good example.

 

[Secret Chief]

I can say bad words and be at peace with myself and my animals!

I rather like 'bad words'... sentence enhancers, Spongebob calls them!

Though, if you throw too many in, you lose the point of the statement...

Too ******* right.

 

[River Sea]

How is that even possible you might ask? Some will think "How can you say that, look at Hitler, or Sadsam or others who do only evil toward others????

No no, you do not love their actions or orders they gave. You can love them for teaching you how not to behave or be toward others. You love the lesson each person can give you, both the good ones and the bad ones.

The good ones teach you what you can become. What to do with your life.
The bad ones teach you how to not become. What not to do with your life

I'm going to ask you here
Because your name is @Seeker of White Light, can you relate? Have you ever seen white light in people that expands outward while also white light is in people?

Also, I'm going to ask because of your name: can you relate when allowing unconditional love light who lives in us to teach us, then feeling the burn of fire in our spirit heart?

I would associate burning fire as spiritual food.

OK, now to my response to your message.

I'm a responder and allow flow. At times I block and other times I allow.

I don't have the ability to love or produce love. I'm a responder as I either allow or block.

When I allow unconditional love in me teach me, then there are two thoughts: my thoughts and unconditional love thoughts, and I call this a cycle of thoughts because actually, that's how I learn.

Love comes with conditions.
Unconditional love comes without conditions.

About challenging situations:
Personally its to difficult for me to enter, so what I do is let light have it, as I'll be on side of., (this might not make any sense) I have challenges in areas that seems to much for me, and so instead of me doing, I'll let light do, as I remain on side of, so I really don't enter the situations, but I'll let light enter situations, as I'll remain on the side.

So far that's how I handle situations and people who's a challenge for me.

I'm in the process of learning, so I'm not claiming this is (not sure word) as I'm sure there are people who are way more developed than me and or able to extremely allow, so their answers will maybe be different than mine due to this.

But this is where I'm at, so where I'm at is then my perspective that I share., as for me, I block a lot, so it helps me remain on the side, as I allow light to teach me in the midst of blocking, while entering for me.
If this is confusing, maybe I'll see if I can articulate this better

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Nah, I don't see the point in loving all. However, I do think it's important to not become reactionary to those we dislike (or even, dare I say, occasionally hate). We should act as we think is right, regardless of how they act. That might include us sometimes being 'nice' to them, or helping them in some way. This isn't because of what we wish they would be, but because of what we wish WE should be.

 

[osgart]

I think to love somebody there has to be a standard of goodness in self and others. Otherwise it's mercy and tolerance that are being expressed. Beyond that it's self defense, or rejection of those like Hitler.

I suppose mercy is a type of love, but certainly not the highest expression of love. Tolerance is just putting up with things we cannot change and perhaps hoping that people don't travel too far down a path of hatred.

So love has it's top qualities, and scales down to certain depths of mercy, and tolerance.

I suppose if life is eternal I would want to see malevolent beings ultimately change into something worthwhile. I don't think that would happen until they get what they deserve first.

I think perhaps hell is the absence of anything good and loving. I'm glad it's not my job to decide.

 

[Truth in love]

How is that even possible you might ask? Some will think "How can you say that, look at Hitler, or Sadsam or others who do only evil toward others????

No no, you do not love their actions or orders they gave. You can love them for teaching you how not to behave or be toward others. You love the lesson each person can give you, both the good ones and the bad ones.

The good ones teach you what you can become. What to do with your life.
The bad ones teach you how to not become. What not to do with your life

I think I agree with your notion, but for different reasons.

while a lesson learned is useful I think love runs much deeper.

I don’t love my kids because of a given choice or lesson learned.

I love because we are family.

I’m at the point of loving the mass murdering types, but there are many who have done a lot of wrong that I do honestly love.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm going to ask you here
Because your name is @Seeker of White Light, can you relate? Have you ever seen white light in people that expands outward while also white light is in people?

Also, I'm going to ask because of your name: can you relate when allowing unconditional love light who lives in us to teach us, then feeling the burn of fire in our spirit heart?

I would associate burning fire as spiritual food.

OK, now to my response to your message.

I'm a responder and allow flow. At times I block and other times I allow.

I don't have the ability to love or produce love. I'm a responder as I either allow or block.

When I allow unconditional love in me teach me, then there are two thoughts: my thoughts and unconditional love thoughts, and I call this a cycle of thoughts because actually, that's how I learn.

Love comes with conditions.
Unconditional love comes without conditions.

About challenging situations:
Personally its to difficult for me to enter, so what I do is let light have it, as I'll be on side of., (this might not make any sense) I have challenges in areas that seems to much for me, and so instead of me doing, I'll let light do, as I remain on side of, so I really don't enter the situations, but I'll let light enter situations, as I'll remain on the side.

So far that's how I handle situations and people who's a challenge for me.

I'm in the process of learning, so I'm not claiming this is (not sure word) as I'm sure there are people who are way more developed than me and or able to extremely allow, so their answers will maybe be different than mine due to this.

But this is where I'm at, so where I'm at is then my perspective that I share., as for me, I block a lot, so it helps me remain on the side, as I allow light to teach me in the midst of blocking, while entering for me.
If this is confusing, maybe I'll see if I can articulate this better

To both your questions i can say Yes, I have seen White Light within people, and I seen it radiating outward from them in to this world.
I have also seen the fire from hell.

 

[The Crimson Universe]

How is that even possible you might ask? Some will think "How can you say that, look at Hitler, or Sadsam or others who do only evil toward others????

No no, you do not love their actions or orders they gave. You can love them for teaching you how not to behave or be toward others. You love the lesson each person can give you, both the good ones and the bad ones.

The good ones teach you what you can become. What to do with your life.
The bad ones teach you how to not become. What not to do with your life

Painful experiences no doubt makes us stronger and more cautious of our surroundings.

 

[Trailblazer]

And welcome back, I've missed you

Me too. I have missed @Seeker of White Light.

 

[danieldemol]

I can hope that they find reformation, but I hope first that they may never harm another again. That's the closest to love I can get for some.

I personally think that is all that is needed for a sufficiently compassionate approach to one's enemies.

I don't know whether such an approach qualifies as love or not.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Me too. I have missed @Seeker of White Light.

I am glad to be back, hopefully i dont run away again...